Monsanto’s Best-Selling Herbicide Roundup Linked to Infertility

In my few minutes on that website it looked to me like those people think there is something wrong with everything that is not "Natural"

It is tough for me to trust that information.
 
Banned in Canada and most of the rest of the civilized world. But Monsato's number 1 product, 80% of their sales. No safety testing since the 1970's due to po;itical stonewalling all that Monsato money buys
 
I would give this article a little more credit if it was in a bigger publication, but if the facts about it being banned in Canada and other parts of the world are true then it's still disturbing. My dad works in the seed sales business- Roundup ready corn is by far their biggest seller. I work with Roundup frequently not only for Ag but also for residential use. I know I've spilled/inhaled/ingested the stuff on a weekly basis for the past 3 years at least. :(
 
Glyphosate [Roundup] is widely used in Canada. Can be bought over the counter by anyone. Same for Australia, Mexico, Argentina, China and on and on. By far the Worlds most used herbicide.
The EU has problems with it but has problems with most American produced stuff. They love the technology though. :)
 
Beretta12 said:
I would give this article a little more credit if it was in a bigger publication, but if the facts about it being banned in Canada and other parts of the world are true then it's still disturbing. My dad works in the seed sales business- Roundup ready corn is by far their biggest seller. I work with Roundup frequently not only for Ag but also for residential use. I know I've spilled/inhaled/ingested the stuff on a weekly basis for the past 3 years at least. :(
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A simple internet search of "Dangers of Roundup" will yield about 3000 hits and wealth of research both domestic and world-wide which detail the problems,and Monsanto's persistent efforts to supress any derogatory findings. Clarification, the Canadian Ban is cosmetic use, lawns, golf courses, etc. There is a review of safety for all use. It has been up for review in the US, for some time, but so far none has been undertaken.
 
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How am I to kill weeds then :confused:
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Cultivate and hoe. I won't make Monsanto any money, but think of the shape you get into, hoeing the garden. We used to hire the school kids to cut tree sprouts out of the pasture, and dig weeds. 100% non toxic.
 
Personally I am really looking forward to the new varieties of sweet corn that are RR. Yummy, yummy, better living through chemicals.
 
oldandnew said:
Cultivate and hoe. I won't make Monsanto any money, but think of the shape you get into, hoeing the garden. We used to hire the school kids to cut tree sprouts out of the pasture, and dig weeds. 100% non toxic.
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Amen! job creation, instead some farmers want to plant their crop. Then go get a $20-$30 per hour job all summer pounding nails or something like. Then go harvest it in the fall. instead of staying home and FARMING!
 
oldandnew said:
Cultivate and hoe. I won't make Monsanto any money, but think of the shape you get into, hoeing the garden. We used to hire the school kids to cut tree sprouts out of the pasture, and dig weeds. 100% non toxic.
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Modern corn hybrids have roots going everywhere, right near the surface, deep and out a couple feet. Cultivate and hoeing is history.:)
 
Not a problem for me. I use open pollinated corn, cultivation works great! Inputs are at a 1970;s level as well, all things new are not necessarily better. Of course when your seed corn is stuff you save yourself or costs fifty bucks a bag, you can't afford to pay the seed salesman a 10.00 per bag commission either.
 
Corn yield in the 70's was 70 Bushel to the acre.
Corn yield now with the Hybrids and Herbicides is 170 Bushel acre.
Think of all the acres at 70 bpa it would take to supply the demand for corn.
I'll take modern technology. :10sign:
 
mnmthunting said:
Corn yield in the 70's was 70 Bushel to the acre.
Corn yield now with the Hybrids and Herbicides is 170 Bushel acre.
Think of all the acres at 70 bpa it would take to supply the demand for corn.
I'll take modern technology. :10sign:
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Actually it's about 140 per acre per USDA. I do average around 75 bushels on my little fields, but my inputs are 75.00 per acre, as apposed to 300+ for the chemical cowboys and I don't have that kind of risk, nor do I do the enviornmental damage. I guess you make choices and take the consequences. How many big time chemical corn farmers would there be without subsidized government crop insurance? Price supports? though they are no longer an issue currently, because we have legislated ethanol to prop up demand and subsize land values, and crop production. Meanwhile we burn our food supply, which we pay more for, and pay more for food, so some small percentage of the U.S. population can game the system to financial gain.
 
Oldandnew, I do understand and agree mostly.
What farming I do in the future will be mainly for wildlife and the fun of it.

Corn yield however in 011 is estimated just under 170 bpa.
easy info, just google it up.

I copied and pasted this from the USDA.

Corn production is 13.2 billion bushels, 1 percent above the previous record of 13 billion bushels set in 2007, and 9 percent higher than 2008. Corn yields reached an all-time high in 2009 at 165.2 bushels per acre, eclipsing the previous record of 160.3 bushels per acre set in 2004. Planted area, at 86.5 million acres, is the second highest since 1949, behind 2007’s 93.5 million acres.
 
I can't help to wonder about the possible effects that the myriad of chemical concoctions spread around the land has on wildlife. I notice that Roundup formulations began to be used in the U.S. in the early 70's. Pheasant and quail numbers in Ohio began to decline steadily there after. Maybe a contributing factor that folks like Monsanto and their supporters would be reluctant to admit?

Widely Used Herbicide Commonly Found in Rain
http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=2909

Glyphosate, also known by its tradename Roundup, is commonly found in rain and rivers in agricultural areas in the Mississippi River watershed, according to two new USGS studies released this month.

Glyphosate is used in almost all agricultural and urban areas of the United States. The greatest glyphosate use is in the Mississippi River basin, where most applications are for weed control on genetically-modified corn, soybeans and cotton. Overall, agricultural use of glyphosate has increased from less than 11,000 tons in 1992 to more than 88,000 tons in 2007.

"Though glyphosate is the mostly widely used herbicide in the world, we know very little about its long term effects to the environment," says Paul Capel, USGS chemist and an author on this study. "This study is one of the first to document the consistent occurrence of this chemical in streams, rain and air throughout the growing season. This is crucial information for understanding where management efforts for this chemical would best be focused."..."
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The main active ingredient of Roundup is the isopropylamine salt of glyphosate. Another important ingredient of Roundup is the surfactant POEA (polyethoxylated tallow amine), which is known for its toxicity in wildlife.[6] It increases herbicide penetration in plant[7] and animal[8][9] cells....

...Roundup commercial formulations were never submitted to test by the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA); its main active ingredient, glyphosate, received EPA Toxicity Class of III for oral and inhalation exposure.[11]
Beyond the glyphosate salts content, commercial formulations of Roundup contain surfactants, which vary in nature and concentration. As a result, human poisoning with this herbicide is not with the main active ingredient alone, but with complex and variable mixtures.[12]....
....Laboratory studies have shown teratogenic effects of Roundup in animals[13] [14]. These reports have proposed that the teratogenic effects are caused by impaired retinoic acid signaling[15]. A 2011 report by Earth Open Source asserts that the Roundup active ingredient - glyphosate - has caused birth defects in laboratory animal tests[16]. News reports have supposed that regulators have been aware of these studies since 1980[17]....
....A 2008 scientific study has shown that Roundup formulations and metabolic products cause the death of human embryonic, placental, and umbilical cells in vitro, even at low concentrations. The effects were not proportional to the main active ingredient concentrations (glyphosate), but dependent on the nature of the adjuvants used in the Roundup formulation.[21]....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundup_(herbicide)#cite_note-15
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RoundUp and Birth Defects, Is The Public Being Kept In The Dark?
http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/57277946?access_key=key-2e3aijw4gtltp4q6fz9h

"...Concerns about the best-selling herbicideRoundup® are running at an all-time high. Scientific research published in 2010 showed thatRoundup and the chemical on which it is based,glyphosate, cause birth defects in frog and chicken embryos at dilutions much lower than those used in agricultural and garden spraying. The EUCommission dismissed these findings, based ona rebuttal provided by the German Federal Office for Consumer Protection and Food Safety, BVL.BVL cited unpublished industry studies to back itsclaim that glyphosate was safe. The Commission has previously ignored or dismissed many other findings from the independent scientific literature showing thatRoundup and glyphosate cause endocrinedisruption, damage to DNA, reproductive and developmental toxicity, neurotoxicity, and cancer,as well as birth defects. Many of these effects are found at very low doses, comparable to levels of pesticide residues found in food and the environment....

...We show that industry and regulators knew aslong ago as the 1980s and 1990s that glyphosatecauses malformations – but that this information was not made public. We demonstrate how EU regulators reasoned their way from clear evidence of glyphosate’s teratogenicity in industry’s ownstudies (the same studies that BVL claimed showthe safety of glyphosate) to a conclusion that minimized these findings in the EU Commission’s final review report...

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/57277946?access_key=key-2e3aijw4gtltp4q6fz9h
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Old and New, how does your profit per acre compare to those who use all the chemicals? If it's close how do we justify all the extra chemicals and energy consumption.
 
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