Keep out my corn and sunflowers

SDJIM

SDJIM

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Just heard a news article that they are going to allow a large increase to both corn and sunflower producers for the use of a spray repelant that does not kill birds it only makes the birds stop using the area. It may not kill birds at the point of contact but will have to hurt long term numbers for many reasons. A yes better living thru chemistry, unless you are an upland bird :(
 
SDJIM said:
Just heard a news article that they are going to allow a large increase to both corn and sunflower producers for the use of a spray repelant that does not kill birds it only makes the birds stop using the area. It may not kill birds at the point of contact but will have to hurt long term numbers for many reasons. A yes better living thru chemistry, unless you are an upland bird :(
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Do you know what the name of it is?
 
It hit the Argus Leader in the Sunday paper. Forgot the name but it makes them sick to their stomach. Occurs naturally in thornberries but when the berries ripen and turn red, they are ok and the pheasants eat them.
 
I wonder what is worse the bad tasting seed corn or eating seed corn that is treated with fungicides and insecticides.
 
The Product is called Avipel and it has been approved for use in corn in SD for a few years now, this is the first year it is approved for sunflowers . It doesn't hurt the pheasants populations at all. We use quite a bit of it in Winner and it works very well and we still have more birds than most of the state. I know quite a few pheasant hunting operations that "still farm for pheasants" that use it also. Believe it or not it is a good product.

http://www.arkionls.com/crop-seed.htm
 
Wirehairs said:
The Product is called Avipel and it has been approved for use in corn in SD for a few years now, this is the first year it is approved for sunflowers . It doesn't hurt the pheasants populations at all. We use quite a bit of it in Winner and it works very well and we still have more birds than most of the state. I know quite a few pheasant hunting operations that "still farm for pheasants" that use it also. Believe it or not it is a good product.

http://www.arkionls.com/crop-seed.htm
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I really don't know that much about it so I will not knock it to much, just seems to me if it gets to where all the corn and/or sunflowers in a large area are treated then the other factors such as bad weather could cause the other food sources they use could be in short supply. I'm not for outlawing good products--but we shall see in the long run. BTW does this stuff still affect the corn/sunflowers after harvest?
 
SDJIM said:
I really don't know that much about it so I will not knock it to much, just seems to me if it gets to where all the corn and/or sunflowers in a large area are treated then the other factors such as bad weather could cause the other food sources they use could be in short supply. I'm not for outlawing good products--but we shall see in the long run. BTW does this stuff still affect the corn/sunflowers after harvest?
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We have been using it for quite a few years. We have to use it or we would have no corn. The treatment only effects the new seed that is being planted for that year. If we don't use it, the pheasants will go down the rows and eat every seed of corn right out of the ground. Our pheasant numbers have stayed very good since using it. I don't believe it effects the corn that grows at all. Pheasants still eat the corn after harvest as they normally would do.
 
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It appears ok, but why a waiver of a ban on everyday use if there is not some potential harm? I know guys who use it and I have no problem, just a question.
 
I'm just thinking:confused:
We lose seed corn to wildlife. In this case pheasants. Well:rolleyes: ME too.:(
Other stuff to, Geese, Sandhill Cranes, blah blah:mad:
So, My question? I do it. Throw out a few bushels of shell corn every few days, whatever is needed.
So why declare WAR on the birds? Don't understand.:eek:
 
mnmthunting said:
I'm just thinking:confused:
We lose seed corn to wildlife. In this case pheasants. Well:rolleyes: ME too.:(
Other stuff to, Geese, Sandhill Cranes, blah blah:mad:
So, My question? I do it. Throw out a few bushels of shell corn every few days, whatever is needed.
So why declare WAR on the birds? Don't understand.:eek:
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Because in the spring I have better things to do than drive around 10 different fields throwing out corn all around the field.
 
mnmthunting said:
I'm just thinking:confused:
We lose seed corn to wildlife. In this case pheasants. Well:rolleyes: ME too.:(
Other stuff to, Geese, Sandhill Cranes, blah blah:mad:
So, My question? I do it. Throw out a few bushels of shell corn every few days, whatever is needed.
So why declare WAR on the birds? Don't understand.:eek:
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It costs about $4.50 to treat an acre of corn in Tripp County. It is much more effective than throwing out a few bushels of corn. In this part of the world, the pheasant population is high enough that they will take 40 acres out of a 160 real quick.

The only WAR declared on the birds here starts the third Weekend in October.:D
 
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