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28" Barrels a Good Choice

bobeyerite said:
Talking barrel length is like discussing Ford and Chevy. It is all what you prefer. I have shot shotgun for over 50 years. So I'm from the days of long barrels. I perfer the 28 inch for me I get a nice smoth swing from them. That I can keep going. If I should to 26 inch I stop my swing a lot. So I'm suggesting the 28 inch barrel. But like I said it is all what works best for you.............Bob
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I agree with Bob.
 
if you are looking at o/u you should at least look at the browning cynergy. I have one with a syn stock and it is very light. the price point is a little better then the citori. the cynergy has a unique hinge that makes it a little stronger so in my mind more durable. I love it because it has all the benifits of o/u but it is not so pretty that I worry about scratching it as I climb over a fence or something.
 
Steel Shot Choking

torch said:
Thanks for the info. I will be using some steel shot though much of the land I hunt I can use lead. I have no idea what choke this gun has. Maybe I should keep looking. I just liked the way this gun looked and felt and the price seemed fair.
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Invector Plus choke tubes specify that the modified choke is a full choke if steel shot is used and that the improved cylinder is modified for steel. Generally can't shoot steel through a full choke -- too much stress on the end of the barrel.
 
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Thanks for all the great advice everybody. I would love a cynergy or citori but the prices seem out of my range. I have a hard time justifying or convincing the wife I need to spend 2g's on another gun. I would like to stay under 1,000. Are prices negotiable from a local gun shop?
Were is the best place to find a good gun at a good price?
 
A Stoeger to me is pure hunk of junk. I have had one that did break or fail to work straight out of the box. I wou get a Baikel before I'd get one of them........Bob
 
Ok, well anybody have any advice on finding a decent gun for a good price? I am having trouble. The best I have found (a little spendy) is a cynergy classic field for 1399.00 new. I would like to spend a lot less if possible and open to used guns. HELP!
 
Stoeger

torch said:
Anybody have any thoughts on the stoeger condor? If you like it what model should i get?
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I have one of the early Stoeger Condors purchased new in '94. The new ones are much nicer than mine. A friend has one he bought about four years ago and it seemed pretty nice for the price. Again, Stoegers are entry level double barrel guns. My old '94 gun has never failed to function and is my back up to my Citori.
 
BritChaser said:
I have one of the early Stoeger Condors purchased new in '94. The new ones are much nicer than mine. A friend has one he bought about four years ago and it seemed pretty nice for the price. Again, Stoegers are entry level double barrel guns. My old '94 gun has never failed to function and is my back up to my Citori.
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BritChaser,

Is correct you, get what you pay for, not that the stoeger is a bad thing. But its not a high end gun, or even, a mid gun, its a cheap gun. NOT that it will not kill birds. Everbody has there price range, and everbody has there budget.

Stoeger, is a benille product. It's not a bad pick. :)
 
OK...Next question, can you all give me a list of choices you would recommend and what I should expect to pay.
 
torch said:
Are prices negotiable from a local gun shop?
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Prices are ALWAYS negotiable. I went to a big box store once and tried to get them talked down on a $1700 gun b/c I had found it online for $1300. They wouldn't do it. Then I went to my local gun shop (who didn't have one in stock) and asked him how much he would charge to transfer a gun for me. THEN I asked if he could get the gun I wanted for the same price I had found online. Needless to say he ordered the gun at the price I wanted to pay. Usually they will do whatever is going to make them the most money.....

As for the Stoeger I will tell you my story. My buddy got one a long time ago and I liked it. His seemed to work good and he shot lots of birds with it. After awhile I decided to get one. When I got it home it wouldn't shoot out of one of the barrels. I had to send a brand new gun in to get fixed. I didn't trust it after that and got rid of it ASAP.

Good luck in your search. Go to lots of dealers and handle the guns and go home and research them online.
 
Try cdnnsports.com they have some nice guns in your price range. Down load their catalog and you may see something you like. You have to have a gun dealer or someone with a FFL to have your gun shipped to.........Bob
 
Stoegers are OK depending on their manufacture. They have varied quite a bit over the years. I would not buy any of the newer brazilian made models. But have seen an older model made in spain I believe that was a quality gun IMO.

Browning's will be out of reach in your price range, but that's not a huge problem. Brownings are nice but rarely found as a bargain due to their high popularity, especially models light enough in weight to meet my desires in a field gun. Look into Franchi's, Verona, SKB's, LC Smith (the new ones made by Marlin), Ruger Red Labels--all decent guns.

In any double--O/U or SxS--you don't have receiver length to deal with. Where that comes into play is that you can have longer barrels on a shorter gun than you would in a gun with a receiver like your BPS.

For dual clays/hunting use I'd look into 28" barrels. A 30" barrel might suit you too--and may be no longer than your BPS. 26" is getting a tad short for clays work but they make nice field guns if balanced well. Shorter than 26" I would avoid esp. if you want to mix clays in.

On the choke thing and steel, it's not quite as dire as mentioned for modern guns. Reason being that most factory steel loads pattern fairly tight as is, and every one places the pellets in a protective shot cup. Where you really run into problems is when you choke steel down in mod-full chokes. The shot cup doesn't help you if steel pellets get constricted in a tight choke--lead will deform and fly right through with no problems to the barrel--steel being harder is less likely to deform and more likely to cause barrel problems.

But you can get by with more open chokes for most everything when using steel. I don't know all the clay games but other than trap I think you can get away with using light mod or Improved cylinder chokes and they will also be as tight as you need for pheasant or duck work over decoys. If you get into long range pass shooting of ducks or geese I'd agree you have more of a dillema.
 
Well I am still trying to decide what to do but here is my latest. I found a Browning Citori White Lightning that I like. Price is more than I wanted to pay but I guess I may just go for it. What do you all think of this gun and what would you pay for a new one. Thanks
 
That brings up a good a point...I have always shot a twelve gauge and never considered anything else. Should I look into 20 or stay with 12? thoughts?
 
torch said:
Well I am still trying to decide what to do but here is my latest. I found a Browning Citori White Lightning that I like. Price is more than I wanted to pay but I guess I may just go for it. What do you all think of this gun and what would you pay for a new one. Thanks
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cheapest I found online after a very quick search was $1567 with free shipping....
 
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