Federal Upland Stamp, is it time?

It's a good thing that the those responsible for the Duck Stamp had a vision they chased. :)
 
Chip said:
I'm all in on eliminating the corn subsidiary . Ethonal is a great solution to a problem that doesn't exist anymore. That would make crp rates more attractive
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Amen brother. The problem is cheap corn makes ethanol cheaper also.
 
Uncle Buck said:
The first thing they will do is consider the pheasant a non-native species. Does not mean it would not benefit from any habitat work however.
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In the management Fed Refuge plans Pheasants or listed along with noxious weeds THAT MUST BE REMOVED!!!!! Having talk to some U.S. FISH and Wildlife mangers they say there really not going to BUT WHY IS IN THE PLAN? Try bring in some new Chukar lines to help biodiversity of the one here NO WAY. I feel your better working with each state. Expand the Duck Stamp but NO Fed Upland stamp.
 
We had a pheasant stamp here in Illinois. They changed it to the habitat stamp. I suppose the word "pheasant" on the stamp wasn't p.c. lol

Nick
 
My whole problem with this is once again conservation is on the backs of the outdoors man/woman and not the other Users! What about the bird watcher, the hiker, and the bike rider? Why are we the hunters supporting the same old funding mechanisms to create revenue? The hunter/fisherman will pay the price so we can maintain and improve habitat, water quality and hunting rights and be expected to be patient and understanding when all the other users descend on the land that was bought and paid for with our user fees. It?s about time a plan is put forth, but if one that is really fair and equitable , we need a plan that is not funded on the backs of the hunter, a plan that all the users pay for.
 
All bills have a summary that is usually 100 words or less summing up the proposal. This is how I would summarize what I would support.

"The federal upland stamp act will generate revenue to purchase, restore, and maintain quality upland habitat on public and private land open to hunting and use the success's of the federal waterfowl stamp act as a basis for fund management and implementation."
 
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NC IA Tail Chaser said:
My whole problem with this is once again conservation is on the backs of the outdoors man/woman and not the other Users! What about the bird watcher, the hiker, and the bike rider? Why are we the hunters supporting the same old funding mechanisms to create revenue? The hunter/fisherman will pay the price so we can maintain and improve habitat, water quality and hunting rights and be expected to be patient and understanding when all the other users descend on the land that was bought and paid for with our user fees. It?s about time a plan is put forth, but if one that is really fair and equitable , we need a plan that is not funded on the backs of the hunter, a plan that all the users pay for.
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good luck with this....but i agree.
 
quail hound said:
All bills have a summary that is usually 100 words or less summing up the proposal. This is how I would summarize want what I would support.

"The federal upland stamp act will generate revenue to purchase, restore, and maintain quality upland habitat on public and private land open to hunting and use the success's of the federal waterfowl stamp act as a basis for fund management and implementation."
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mission statement, to sell the stamp........nice.
 
No.

There is no need to add this stamp to upland hunters.

Federal Duck Stamp already benefits upland hunters in many states by providing ample cover and many of these places open to hunting. Maybe they should start by simply requiring all people accessing WPAs and NWRs for any game animal to buy the Federal Duck Stamp. Those living in the PPR know that pheasants benefit on almost every acre already saved for ducks (if the property is in pheasant country).

Ducks migrate, upland do not... Thus money spent on the PPR (Prairie Pothole Region) will benefit hunters all through out the flyways. It would be nearly impossible to equitably distribute funds across all bird habitats, states, etc... States should be responsible for upland birds and their habitat.

The governing agencies should manages what they already have. Federal Grasslands can be managed for wildlife and ranchers running cattle on these lands charged the actual going rate.

National Forest land should go into an active timber management plan. Ruffed Grouse Society has often stated the worst habitat for ruffed grouse is on Federal National Forests because they are not actively manged for cuts and habitat diversity. This would actual generate revenue !
 
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Brittman well said couldn't agree more especially about fed forest land.
 
quail hound said:
"The federal upland stamp act will generate revenue to purchase, restore, and maintain quality upland habitat on public and private land open to hunting and use the success's of the federal waterfowl stamp act as a basis for fund management and implementation."
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I like the concept, just think if matching funds were available for the last two decades for state agencies and/or PF to make some of the CRP acres perpetual or 99 leases or outright purchase (not annual payments but a one time payment). As many farmers have said "that land should never have been farmed", not true of all of it but some. Think about how many times the taxpayers have "purchased" some of these fields, they were in the soil bank and now 30 years of CRP payments...Lots of options if we think outside the box a little. You have to have willing sellers but money talks.

I don't think the Federal govt is going to start a new 50 state program unless it is department of ag (congress can't pass anything let alone this). The Prairie Pothole Region properties are managed as part of wetland management districts, those don't exist in the rest of the country. However, state agencies and/or PF could oversee the land interest (fee title or lease) and access (no sense not having hunting access).

What does upland hunting look like 20 years from now if continue the same old same old...:eek:
 
3car said:
I think its a great idea but how is the USFWS going to be tied to it. Were is the federal nexus? Upland birds are and have been historically managed by the states. Upland birds are not "trust" species of the USFWS to manage unless tied to the ESA. Don't get me wrong, I like the idea. I just see some big problems. If done I see the private lands programs being funded again and the easement program being expanded outside the pot hole region. That would be great! And maybe even UPA's ( upland production areas)? lol

Maybe the upland folks could piggy back onto the Duck Stamp, say add another 5 bucks for a 30 dollar duck stamp. One more stamp means another potential problem for folks getting a ticket from Mr. Green Jeans.
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correct, unless tied to the esa or migratory.
 
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