farming question

fsentkilr said:
I have noticed more wheat being cut with stripper headers also. One big advantage to them is you don't run as much through the combines as they just take off the heads and not the straw. They are also better for picking up down wheat. Here in eastern Kansas where most of the wheat is double cropped backed to notill beans, they leave less residue on the ground so the beans plant better. The down side to them is they are more expensive to keep up.

They are definitely better for the pheasants, and I hope their use keeps expanding. Here is a youtube video of a stripper header in action for those that are curious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EYij93pCZQ
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if all the wheat looked as pathetic as it does in this promo, it wouldn't make a damn whether it was stripped or not...as far a stubble is concerned.
 
fsentkilr said:
New pasture doesn't have much of a seed bank. I have brought lots of it into production over the years, and it is easier to keep clean because pigweeeds and waterhemp don't grow in pastures. There are some weeds that are resistant to all preemerge chemicals, especially pigweeds and waterhemp. I don't do this for a hobby, I farm over 6000 acres, so I do have a little experience in what I'm talking about. Like I said before, farmers don't like spending money spraying for the hell of it.
The reason I have a aversion to weeds, is because they cost me money, period.[/QUOT
I am not talking just about pasture land being farmed. I have seen fields with spots not farmed for years due to a tile break down. This area has grown giant rag weed, pig weed, velvet leaf, smart weed and many others. The first year after the tile repairs the crops in these areas are just as clean as the rest of the field due to herbicides. They work. If the goal to sterilize the ground so much as to farm with out herbicides I do not think this possible or desirable. If you do not think you have weed seeds in you soil just disc a piece and see what grows. Guess we will just not agree on this.:cheers:
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Weed seeds are in the soil for what? 30-40 years.
Want a crop? You have to spray every year.
Maybe leave some areas for the critters. :thumbsup:
 
fsentkilr said:
I have noticed more wheat being cut with stripper headers also. One big advantage to them is you don't run as much through the combines as they just take off the heads and not the straw. They are also better for picking up down wheat. Here in eastern Kansas where most of the wheat is double cropped backed to notill beans, they leave less residue on the ground so the beans plant better. The down side to them is they are more expensive to keep up.

They are definitely better for the pheasants, and I hope their use keeps expanding. Here is a youtube video of a stripper header in action for those that are curious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EYij93pCZQ
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Cool video. Our Wolf Creek Pheasant Camp uses this type of head to harvest its wheat.

Couple years back a group of 10 hunting week before Christmas limited all 3 days and said they got 75% of their birds in the wheat stubble.
 
Poor wheat crop for sure, maybe 15 bpa. Anyway get the idea. That machine is covering ground, for the commercial I guess. Normal wheat crop would be slowed down a bit.:)
Still, if that were conventionally harvested the stubble would be almost nothing as far as the birds are concerned.

I'll maybe get a pic of some 50 bpa wheat strip harvested, different story.
 
My buddy has a good number of quail at his place and I told him one thing he could do is have the farmer plant winter wheat and not let the guy bail it, spray or mow it. We could even plant some type of short maturing milo or sunflower after the wheat is harvested.
 
gobucks said:
My buddy has a good number of quail at his place and I told him one thing he could do is have the farmer plant winter wheat and not let the guy bail it, spray or mow it. We could even plant some type of short maturing milo or sunflower after the wheat is harvested.
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If you start ordering tenants around like that, your buddy will be farming it himself before long. Also the quail nest could be wiped out harvesting the wheat. Maybe not let the farmer harvest it either? If you really want the quail just let it grow up to weeds and don't farm it at all, that would be the best. That doesn't pay real well though,
 
fsentkilr said:
I have noticed more wheat being cut with stripper headers also. One big advantage to them is you don't run as much through the combines as they just take off the heads and not the straw. They are also better for picking up down wheat. Here in eastern Kansas where most of the wheat is double cropped backed to notill beans, they leave less residue on the ground so the beans plant better. The down side to them is they are more expensive to keep up.

They are definitely better for the pheasants, and I hope their use keeps expanding. Here is a youtube video of a stripper header in action for those that are curious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EYij93pCZQ
Click to expand...

Cool video. Will leave a taller stubble even with the shorter types of wheat. Would be hard to get out of the way of that New Holland!:coolpics:
 
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