Fair Chase

quail hound said:
That's why I don't shoot coyotes anymore. Shot one with grandpa's 22-250, paced him off 375yds, looked at him and thought "well I'll never do that again". It seemed like such a waste to me just leaving him lay there. If I knew how to skin and tan a yote it might have been different but until then I'll never again draw the cross hairs on another.
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But coyotes are considered vermin due to livestock predation, so you fulfilled a social good bysimply shooting it. I don't think there is any obligation on skinning or eating species regarded as vermin and a threat to livestock.
 
Talked to the trapper Yesterday. He traps my property my brothers next door and neighbors to the North and South. Good size chunk of land.Set the traps/snares the day after Muzzle Loader Season.
So far 4 Yotes and seven foxes a couple mink and a ton of Musk Rats.
I asked Him if He sees evidence of the Coyotes killing foxes.
Puzzled look:confused: No, why do You ask?
I sez, Wellllll :eek: I know they get along fine, had a couple guys tell me if You have Coyotes you won't have foxes. Now I reckon He thinks I'm some sort of a rookie. :(
 
mnmthunting said:
Talked to the trapper Yesterday. He traps my property my brothers next door and neighbors to the North and South. Good size chunk of land.Set the traps/snares the day after Muzzle Loader Season.
So far 4 Yotes and seven foxes a couple mink and a ton of Musk Rats.
I asked Him if He sees evidence of the Coyotes killing foxes.
Puzzled look:confused: No, why do You ask?
I sez, Wellllll :eek: I know they get along fine, had a couple guys tell me if You have Coyotes you won't have foxes. Now I reckon He thinks I'm some sort of a rookie. :(
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Well that tells me you have a high prey population :cheers: predator numbers are influenced by prey numbers. Out here where prey populations may be a little less dense yotes do not enjoy the competition. Used to have a fox den in my neighbors pasture, they used to come eat plums off my trees. About 4 years ago ground squirrel populations rose and a couple coyotes moved in. I never again saw the foxes though I did find a dead kit that had been chomped. Now my plums are safe.:cheers:

I guess my old tom cat or my jack russel could have killed the kit.
 
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FCSpringer said:
Yep, gotta just have a pair, and do the greater good.:thumbsup:
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Geez Fc you are the manliest man alive and everyone who doesn't do as you do needs to grow a set. So I don't shoot coyotes big deal. It doesn't bother me one bit that you do and I'm not trying to tell anyone not to. I tend water for some farmers when they are on vacation or whatever. My brother shot 4 yotes out of 1 40 acre vineyard in a week of helping me tend water, didn't bother me one bit, didn't help the covey of quail or the cottontails who live in that vineyard one bit either. The covey has about 30 birds every year no matter how many we harvest or how many coyotes we kill, it's called carrying capacity.;)
 
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quail hound said:
Geez Fc you are the manliest man alive and everyone who doesn't do as you do needs to grow a set. So I don't shoot coyotes big deal. It doesn't bother me one bit that you do and I'm not trying to tell anyone not to. I tend water for some farmers when they are on vacation or whatever. My brother shot 4 yotes out of 1 40 acre vineyard in a week of helping me tend water, didn't either me one bit, didn't help the covey of quail or the cottontails who live in that vineyard one bit either. The covey has about 30 birds every year no matter how many we harvest or how many coyotes we kill, it's called carrying capacity.;)
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lol. I don't shoot, coyotes either. As long as they don't bother me, I won't bother them.
 
Here's my brother with one of the dozen or so coyotes he shot out of that one little vineyard this year. The quail seemed not to have noticed.:eek:

Cute little dog, he was just eating to damn many grapes and had to be dispatched for the greater good.

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my reference to popping one in a ditch was misguided. I meant shooting a bird that flushes from a road side ditch. I would never shoot a bird on the ground..ever..that is the most dangerous thing a hunter can do with dogs around.
 
V-John said:
lol. I don't shoot, coyotes either. As long as they don't bother me, I won't bother them.
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I've never shot a coyote either, but this weekend I'm going to give it a try. Heading out to Southwest Kansas for Christmas and the father in-law said they're all over the place. Never thought I'd see the day that the coyotes out number the pheasants in SW Kansas, but I believe that's the case this year!
 
Pheasants are easy pickings and a favorite for a coyote, You have Coyotes You won't have much for pheasants.
I'm talking pheasant country.:) The more the cover is fragmented the easy for Yotes, but the results are the same.
 
quail hound said:
Geez Fc you are the manliest man alive and everyone who doesn't do as you do needs to grow a set. So I don't shoot coyotes big deal. It doesn't bother me one bit that you do and I'm not trying to tell anyone not to. I tend water for some farmers when they are on vacation or whatever. My brother shot 4 yotes out of 1 40 acre vineyard in a week of helping me tend water, didn't bother me one bit, didn't help the covey of quail or the cottontails who live in that vineyard one bit either. The covey has about 30 birds every year no matter how many we harvest or how many coyotes we kill, it's called carrying capacity.;)
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Sorry, you took that that way, not what I meant. Take care
 
FCSpringer said:
Sorry, you took that that way, not what I meant. Take care
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No harm no foul, maybe I was being to defensive. Have a merry Christmas and give those beautiful dogs an extra treat for me.:cheers:
 
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