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I suppose you drive a Prius with an Obama bumper sticker on it.

This Climate Change crap has completely gotten out of hand. How can you continue to drink the kool-aid? That is my question.
 
Aspen trees, the backbone of Minnesota's paper industry, are liking the extra carbon dioxide in the air linked to global warming.

New research published Friday found that aspen growth rates increased by 53 percent during the past half-century, as carbon dioxide in the atmosphere increased about 20 percent.

"Trees eat carbon dioxide for a living," said Don Waller, study author and University of Wisconsin-Madison botany professor.

As carbon dioxide increases in the air, he said, plants can extract more of it and convert it to sugar through photosynthesis. That speeds up their growth.

The results could be especially important for Minnesota and Wisconsin, where aspen is the dominant species on about 7.3 million acres of timberland.

"It's the most abundant and the most-used species by the forest products industry," said Tim O'Hara, vice president of forest policy at Minnesota Forest Industries. It is the main species used for paper and certain construction board, he said, and is also used for pallets and other products.

The Wisconsin study is one of the first to research aspen and outdoor carbon dioxide levels in their native forest environment.

Waller and other scientists chose 919 aspen trees, ranging from 5 to 76 years old, from three regions of Wisconsin. They took core samples from each and analyzed their growth rings. Even accounting for different ages of the trees and rainfall rates over the decades, Waller said, carbon dioxide was the major cause of boosted growth rates.

The study included researchers at the University of Minnesota, Morris, and was published Friday in Global Change Biology, a national journal.

Waller said that the findings do not mean that aspen will continue to grow at ever-faster rates.

The species may already be reaching a saturation point on the limits of how much carbon dioxide it can absorb.

"Aspen may have a relative growth edge right now because of this carbon dioxide fertilization effect," he said. "But that doesn't mean necessarily that they're going to continue growing better forever."

'Sudden aspen decline'

What happens in the woods will be much more complicated and unpredictable, said Waller.

Rapid aspen growth and expansion could trigger an insect infestation or set off a plant disease. It could also reduce the number of other tree species, he said, and change wildlife habitat.

Studies by other researchers have found correlations between carbon dioxide and tree growth, but have used growth chambers or greenhouses that piped in elevated concentrations of the gas. Other scientists studying oak and pine have not observed faster growth rates.

Waller said that carbon dioxide is a more powerful influence on growth than he expected.

Still, he said, nothing can counteract drought, which is killing millions of aspen in Canadian prairie provinces, northern plains states and parts of the West.

Colorado alone has lost half a million acres of aspen in this decade -- a phenomenon known as "sudden aspen decline" -- in large part because of acute drought and increased vulnerability to insects.

"The big lesson here is that there are surprises in nature, and that global climate change isn't just about temperature," Waller said. "It would be very difficult and unwise to predict all the ecological consequences of this one research result."

Tom Meersman • 612-673-7388 Star Tribune, Minneapolis (Even a liberal newspaper)
 
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In honor of the start of the 15thUnited Nations Climate Change Conference I thought I should re-start this thread by posting a listing of all hunting organizations that are contributing to climate change efforts. I am proud to say that Pheasants Forever is on the list.
http://www.trcp.org/issues/climatechange/362.html

"In Honor of the Start of the 15th United Nations Climate Change Conference"

That may be the gayest thing I have ever heard in my life.
 
What about CLIMATEGATE J-BROS? I NOTICE YOU HAVE COMPLETELY IGNORED THE DOCTERED SCIENCE YOU SO OFTEN BOW DOWN TO.
The co-2, garbage etc. generated by the conference will be greater than some countries emit in one year and Al Gore's house in a month. Buy some wine and cheese stocks.
By the way, did you see the PBS show yet?
Sarah Palin just left Sioux Falls and left quite an positive impression. If YOU j-bros visit SD, you best lower your tone. :rolleyes:
 
"In Honor of the Start of the 15th United Nations Climate Change Conference"

That may be the gayest thing I have ever heard in my life.

Question: Why did you take such vehement offense to this post? I would like to know why such a politically charged, and in your case, sexual, reaction to science occurs. Please enlighten us.

Unfortunately, it is people like yourself that propagate the stereotypes that make us hunters look completely ignorant and stupid. You do a considerable amount of harm for the future of this sport.

For the record, I would love to have a Prius for my 400 mile hunting trips.
 
I suppose you drive a Prius with an Obama bumper sticker on it.

This Climate Change crap has completely gotten out of hand. How can you continue to drink the kool-aid? That is my question.

It's not propaganda, it is science and if it were not, why would every single nation in the world be participating regardless of government, religious and political affiliation?

As much as you would like to believe that this is a liberal/conservative issue relegated only to views of Americans, it is not and I am sorry to disappoint you.
 
Aspen trees, the backbone of Minnesota's paper industry, are liking the extra carbon dioxide in the air linked to global warming.

New research published Friday found that aspen growth rates increased by 53 percent during the past half-century, as carbon dioxide in the atmosphere increased about 20 percent.

"Trees eat carbon dioxide for a living," said Don Waller, study author and University of Wisconsin-Madison botany professor.

As carbon dioxide increases in the air, he said, plants can extract more of it and convert it to sugar through photosynthesis. That speeds up their growth.

The results could be especially important for Minnesota and Wisconsin, where aspen is the dominant species on about 7.3 million acres of timberland.

"It's the most abundant and the most-used species by the forest products industry," said Tim O'Hara, vice president of forest policy at Minnesota Forest Industries. It is the main species used for paper and certain construction board, he said, and is also used for pallets and other products.

The Wisconsin study is one of the first to research aspen and outdoor carbon dioxide levels in their native forest environment.

Waller and other scientists chose 919 aspen trees, ranging from 5 to 76 years old, from three regions of Wisconsin. They took core samples from each and analyzed their growth rings. Even accounting for different ages of the trees and rainfall rates over the decades, Waller said, carbon dioxide was the major cause of boosted growth rates.

The study included researchers at the University of Minnesota, Morris, and was published Friday in Global Change Biology, a national journal.

Waller said that the findings do not mean that aspen will continue to grow at ever-faster rates.

The species may already be reaching a saturation point on the limits of how much carbon dioxide it can absorb.

"Aspen may have a relative growth edge right now because of this carbon dioxide fertilization effect," he said. "But that doesn't mean necessarily that they're going to continue growing better forever."

'Sudden aspen decline'

What happens in the woods will be much more complicated and unpredictable, said Waller.

Rapid aspen growth and expansion could trigger an insect infestation or set off a plant disease. It could also reduce the number of other tree species, he said, and change wildlife habitat.

Studies by other researchers have found correlations between carbon dioxide and tree growth, but have used growth chambers or greenhouses that piped in elevated concentrations of the gas. Other scientists studying oak and pine have not observed faster growth rates.

Waller said that carbon dioxide is a more powerful influence on growth than he expected.

Still, he said, nothing can counteract drought, which is killing millions of aspen in Canadian prairie provinces, northern plains states and parts of the West.

Colorado alone has lost half a million acres of aspen in this decade -- a phenomenon known as "sudden aspen decline" -- in large part because of acute drought and increased vulnerability to insects.

"The big lesson here is that there are surprises in nature, and that global climate change isn't just about temperature," Waller said. "It would be very difficult and unwise to predict all the ecological consequences of this one research result."

Tom Meersman â?¢ 612-673-7388 Star Tribune, Minneapolis (Even a liberal newspaper)

I was curious what sort of information you dug up and surprisingly I completely agree with it. Perhaps you should read it and redact your statement as this article completely acknowledges CO2 induced climate change. ;)
 
I was curious what sort of information you dug up and surprisingly I completely agree with it. Perhaps you should read it and redact your statement as this article completely acknowledges CO2 induced climate change. ;)
Labman posts an article that contradicts his opinion. Too funny. :D
 
J-bros and windyman 21---you never respond to THE QUESTIONS in my posts. What about Climategate? The BBC broke the news about Al's buddies doctoring the data. The BBC is hardly right wing.
Re NOAA, ONE OF THERE EXPERTS RECENTLY ADMITTED INTENTIONALLY SUBSTITUTING OCT. FOR NOV. TO 'PROVE" THE TEMPS WERE WARMER.
 
It's not propaganda, it is science and if it were not, why would every single nation in the world be participating regardless of government, religious and political affiliation?

As much as you would like to believe that this is a liberal/conservative issue relegated only to views of Americans, it is not and I am sorry to disappoint you.

Winchester, I agree with your assessment of the climate change efforts going on around the world. I agree that man, after eons of years, is now impacting climate change and that man can, and should, do something about it for future generations.

There are always those who will oppose change even when it makes sense. Some examples include the end of slavery, smoking in public, women's voting rights and so forth. Fortunately, the majority of the leaders in the world are convinced that nations should work together to reduce man's impact on climate change. I think this issue will probably be with us until the end of time.

LM
 
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