Are Pheasants Toast?

carptom1 said:
SHHHHHHHH! We are talking about it too much. Ok I made it up. There are no birds in the wheat stubble. I am in therapy for lying now. To those of you that I offended on here I apologize. Don't waste your time in the stubble this year. I will hunt it as penance for my actions. again I am sorry.
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ATTENTION TO EVERYONE:D
NOW ANNOUNCING A KANSAS, Winter Wheat stubble field, UPH GROUP HUNT, ALERT!​

How many hunters?-- NO LIMIT ON HUNTERS!
What are the rules?--There aren't any! Besides bring dogs! Lot's and lot's of Bird dogs that really know what the heck they are doing so birds can't give us the slip.:cheers:
who's welcome?--Everyone under the sun who can shoot pheasants (great shots are preferred so kill rates remain high).
Where?--Carptom1's favorite Winter Wheat stubble fields (ALL OF THEM!)
Why?--That's where Carptom1 shoots his birds and told us that's where the birds are!!:thumbsup:
How do I know this?--He told the world.::cheers:
 
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Carptom1's favorite Winter Wheat stumble fields (ALL OF THEM!)

I don't care who you are that there is funny! You know me better than you thought. As old and fat as I am getting they are my stumble fields
 
Gollie! Guess I better get down to SW KS and hunt that thar WW. Don't hunt with a dog though - just me, a vest full of shells, and my stockless 4.5lb benelli 20ga monty.
 
For me, WW fields are usually good for rolled ankles, especially in the early morning when the ground is good and frozen. Corn and milo are the real stumble fields for me. Walking across the stubble can often be effective, but takes a toll on me.

This poor thread has been hijacked beyond recognition, but it's good to see people posting.:thumbsup:
 
Toad said:
This poor thread has been hijacked beyond recognition, but it's good to see people posting.:thumbsup:
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Yes it has Toad.:eek: My bad. Sorry. I couldn't resit the open door for some fun there.

And Carptom1, as you know, it was supposed to be STUBBLE!:rolleyes:! No implications towards your "WW walking abilities" were intended my friend.:D:cheers:
 
carptom1 said:
I don't mean to be disagreeable.... but.....at least in Kansas you find the birds in stubble at first light and at last light. Unless the birds are sleepwalking:p thats where they are. They are there untill it really gets nasty. The last couple of winters that never happened. We were finding birds there in January. Most broods are reared in the wheat and they relate to it because that's home. I have been hunting pheasants here for nearly 40 yrs and that has always been the case. Our winters are not like yours in the north.
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Glad it works for you. Haven't hunted down there. Where I've seen WW. It's harvested end of July, early August, shortly after blackened soil and next years WW planted. Sprouts up a couple inches then is dormant over Winter. Spring warmup will green up and grow. Giving pheasants a couple months of cover.
 
There's more than one story about WW here in KS. As others have said, in this state it is critical nesting and brood-rearing habitat. I'm always rooting for a WW harvest that is bountiful and slightly delayed. As pheasant hunter I want tall wheat straw and a harvest delayed long enough not to interfere with hatching. Too much delay starts to impact the farmers' wallets, and I don't want that.

It's also true that much WW stubble is immediately worked. In the east it's often planted right back to beans for fall harvest. In the west, it's worked or sprayed to retard weed growth in order to conserve moisture for the next year's wheat crop.

A huntable WW field is one that has not been planted earlier in the fall for the following spring's crop. In other words, if a particular field is to be harvested in May of 2013, it will be unhuntable this fall.

As a general rule, the only place you will find huntable WW fields is in the western part of the state.

The article referenced at this link provides great info, although it is sadly not available any more.

http://www.kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/K...MINIMUM-TILL-BENEFITS-FARM-PROFITS,-PHEASANTS
 
Please post slower...I'm trying to take notes.

I take it the words Pittsburg, NH mean little on this message board.
 
Matto, Boy:confused: you better study up. Winter Wheat harvested in May?
More likely end of July 1st of August.
 
OK, May is wrong. However, with respect to Kansas, it's no more wrong than late July/early August.

My farmer friend in the Wichita area told me that he typically starts to cut wheat around June 10. This year it was late May.
 
matto said:
OK, May is wrong. However, with respect to Kansas, it's no more wrong than late July/early August.

My farmer friend in the Wichita area told me that he typically starts to cut wheat around June 10. This year it was late May.
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Mom's birthday is June 6th, I can remember seeing what harvested once on her birthday, usually the June 10th number is good.

This year was totally different. Southeast Kansas had combines rolling May 20th, saw them with my own eyes. Newspaper article had farmers stating they were seeing 70 bushels/acre average. That's almost unheard of for an average.

Corn harvest here started late July, a month earlier than is typical, and yields are terrible.
 
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OldDublin said:
Please post slower...I'm trying to take notes.

I take it the words Pittsburg, NH mean little on this message board.
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Don't worry. I'll send you my chicken scratches for notes OldD.:D

Pittsburg, NH? Grouse country:confused:
 
1pheas4 said:
Don't worry.
Pittsburg, NH? Grouse country:confused:
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I think that O-Dub is referring to an article a few years back that mentioned Pittsburg as THE spot for ruffed grouse. It resulted in hunting pressure that became legendary.

I reckon Dub will be stumbling thru a few wheat fields this season.

I don't know myself. Probably just stay home. ;)
 
Reilly Auld said:
I think that O-Dub is referring to an article a few years back that mentioned Pittsburg as THE spot for ruffed grouse. It resulted in hunting pressure that became legendary.

I reckon Dub will be stumbling thru a few wheat fields this season.

I don't know myself. Probably just stay home. ;)
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lol. Got it. Thanks for clarifying Reilly:)

Should I put an announcement out for a UPH Pit. NH area Grouse hunt too just to help out:rolleyes:
 
You guys are there so that's good enough for me. :thumbsup:

This is what I was going by, From the Kansas Wheat Commission.
Paragraph below is from their site.

The Kansas wheat harvest starts in June at the southern border of Kansas, usually in the area south of Wichita or to the west. From there, the wheat harvest spreads north and west in the larger wheat-growing areas of the state. Wheat harvest in Kansas usually ends in early July at the Nebraska border and in mid-July at the Colorado border.
 
mnmthunting said:
You guys are there so that's good enough for me. :thumbsup:

This is what I was going by, From the Kansas Wheat Commission.
Paragraph below is from their site.

The Kansas wheat harvest starts in June at the southern border of Kansas, usually in the area south of Wichita or to the west. From there, the wheat harvest spreads north and west in the larger wheat-growing areas of the state. Wheat harvest in Kansas usually ends in early July at the Nebraska border and in mid-July at the Colorado border.
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that would be correct. This year, because the wheat grew in the heat all winter, it matured in may. That was a concern because early harvest was bad for nesting. Doesn't matter I think we are in for a tough year this year.
 
There was a lot of wheat cut in May this year in Kansas. However from what I saw, the early spring had the pheasants nesting earlier also.
 
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