Roading

I don't understand?:confused:
Why not get out there, you and the dogs should be in shape for hunting.
I walk trails/field edge everyday with the pups. 4-5 miles.
 
mnmthunting said:
I don't understand?:confused:
Why not get out there, you and the dogs should be in shape for hunting.
I walk trails/field edge everyday with the pups. 4-5 miles.
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Teaching dogs to run after cars/trucks has got to be the worst idea I have heard in a loooooong time.

NB
 
mnmthunting said:
I don't understand?:confused:
Why not get out there, you and the dogs should be in shape for hunting.
I walk trails/field edge everyday with the pups. 4-5 miles.
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TIME. I don't have a lot of it. No offense, but you must have a lot more time on your hands than I do. This is a quick and effective way of getting the dogs in shape and still leave enough time to be a dad, go to baseball, football, soccer, and basketball games, wrestling meets. On top of that, I work 7 days a week unless I'm using vacation time. I wish I had time for a 5 mile walk every day, but that is just not the case.
 
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Natty Bumpo said:
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Teaching dogs to run after cars/trucks has got to be the worst idea I have heard in a loooooong time.

NB
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Good thing they haven't learned to chase cars as a result of this conditioning process. It works for several of us even if it is the "worst idea you've heard in a long time". NONE of my dogs chase cars. I'm sorry, but your theory doesn't hold water for those of us that have done this for years.

There may be some dogs that aren't intelligent enough to tell the difference between their owner's truck and that of a passer by, but I've yet to own one. My dogs have always remembered which truck they came from. The only time they follow a vehicle (more like run beside) is when we're at the one road that we do this on. They've never once acted like they were going to chase another vehicle. Many dogs aren't as dumb as some folks think.....I treat mine like they're just as smart as my kids and they respond accordingly.

This assumption that a dog will chase cars just b/c I've ran them w/ my vehicle, is like my grandpa's assumption that "inside dogs don't hunt" and my other favorite "crossbred pups should be destroyed b/c they'll never hunt". Well, I like my grandpa and agree with a lot of his beliefs, but he was WAY off base with these assumptions. My best bird dog was raised on a bottle, lived its entire life inside, and was a cross breed. I will continue to condition my dogs on our favorite back road and I'll get out and walk with them when I can.
 
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kansasbrittany said:
Good thing they haven't learned to chase cars as a result of this conditioning process. It works for several of us even if it is the "worst idea you've heard in a long time". NONE of my dogs chase cars. I'm sorry, but your theory doesn't hold water for those of us that have done this for years.

There may be some dogs that aren't intelligent enough to tell the difference between their owner's truck and that of a passer by, but I've yet to own one. My dogs have always remembered which truck they came from. The only time they follow a vehicle (more like run beside) is when we're at the one road that we do this on. They've never once acted like they were going to chase another vehicle. Many dogs aren't as dumb as some folks think.....I treat mine like they're just as smart as my kids and they respond accordingly.

This assumption that a dog will chase cars just b/c I've ran them w/ my vehicle, is like my grandpa's assumption that "inside dogs don't hunt" and my other favorite "crossbred pups should be destroyed b/c they'll never hunt". Well, I like my grandpa and agree with a lot of his beliefs, but he was WAY off base with these assumptions. My best bird dog was raised on a bottle, lived its entire life inside, and was a cross breed. I will continue to condition my dogs on our favorite back road and I'll get out and walk with them when I can.
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As I noted we have a very set routine. Here in OH we don't have the big open prarie's that a lot of you guys have and spend a fair amount of our hunting time in pretty close proximity to roads. I can honestly say that I have never once had my dog give any indication he was going to chase a vehicle, not even one that looked like mine. Same thing for when he is loose at the house, never have seen him give it a thought.
 
we should realize that somepeaple may not be keen to our backwoods ways of doing things like running dogs with vehicles or raising a crossbred pup for hunting in the house to each their own and our ways obviously work for us so lets keep doing them
 
kansasbrittany said:
Good thing they haven't learned to chase cars as a result of this conditioning process. It works for several of us even if it is the "worst idea you've heard in a long time". NONE of my dogs chase cars. I'm sorry, but your theory doesn't hold water for those of us that have done this for years.
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Kansas,

Dont take everything so personally. No offence, but you are taking a differing opinion than yours, personally.

Ask any country Vet what the number 1 cause of death of dogs out in the country is, Its being hit by pickups, feed truck, grain trucks, milk trucks,etc. Dogs out running the roads, chasing vehicles, etc etc. Dogs who think running the roads is just dandy, just great, in fact, who have been trained to do so!!! Good Luck with that.

When we hunt in SoDak every November during the harvest, there are grain trucks barreling down those gravel roads at 100 MPH (sic.). And trust me, Kansas, they sure arent stopping for any dog, yours, mine or anybody elses.

This is an internet discussion forum. This format invites discussion and opinions, as the rules of this forum states. I simply stated my opinion that, IMHO, this is a bad idea.

OK, Kansas, you say you have Brittanys, eh??? Then maybe you have heard of Delmar Smith??? HOF trainer, handler of many many National Champions and breeder of the famous Bazooka line of Britts?? Why dont you ask Delmar Smith what "roading" is?? And be sure to report back to us.:)

NB
 
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I didn't take it personally and it's my mistake if I came across that way. If you could see my facial expressions, you would've seen a disappointed look in my face. Disappointed b/c you made a false assumption about dogs and/or people you don't know. Bad idea for me to road my dogs on a road that probably averages 35 cars per year? A 2 lane track that grain trucks can't even go on? I live in cattle country. All that comes down the road that I run my dogs on is one old farmer counting his cows and a few drifting hunters looking for new spots....all creeping along at a snails pace. The only person I have to worry about is myself in the situation I've created.

Thanks for sharing your opinion. I just wanted to share my experience and my experience indicates that your opinion isn't necessarily true for everybody in every circumstance. Your statement was very general and I hate to see folks painting with such broad strokes.
 
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Well put KB couldnt have said it better most of the peaple who are against roading on here live in overpopulated areas such as mich I know I lived ther but know we can enjoy the smog free environment and road on cattle trails
 
Dakotazeb said:
Anybody ever try one of these?

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3307+20816+12526&pcatid=12526
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Dakota,

I was going to suggest looking at one of these things. There are 2-3 such attachments for bikes out there I think. I dunno if this one is the best or not.

I've seen bike attachments for running a dog discussed on other boards and several folks seemed to like them very well. I would guess it would depend on the dog and how busy the bike path, trail, road, or whatever would be. Might be worth a shot.

Natty B.
 
I would give that a Thumbs up George. I think something like that is perfect for what you want to do. I have never seen one before but I will remember it...............Bob
 
Here's another one that looks even better but a little more money.

http://www.dog-training.com/springer.htm

I need to get a bike. Been using my wife's and it doesn't fit me right. Besides her's is a 21 speed and I just want an old cruiser style with the coaster brake. No hills around here so 1 speed is fine. My question is do I buy the Schwinn at the bike shop for $259 or the Schwinn at Walmart or Target for $115? The Schwinn's at Walmart & Target are made of lesser grade components but probably would last me for as much as I'd ride. Wife thinks I should get the $259 one but I dont want to spend that much. And buying used doesn't interest me as I might be buying someone else's problem.
 
one of my girlfriend's friends had one of those on her bike. she stopped by one day when we had our dogs out in the yard. she said she really liked it and so did the dog. she said it worked great. If I didn't have such easy access to some country fields I'd buy one of them in a heart beat. I still might considering the mosquitoes are so bad right now I cant run fast enough to escape them, even in-town!
 
wow cheaper than I thought they would be. when you get it let me know what you think of it as in quality and such. for that much I might have to get one too
 
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George, considering your age and what you want the bike for. I would go with the cheaper one. If it doesn't work right for you wal-mart has a good return policy. You asked for thoughts and that is my .02...............Bob
 
bobeyerite said:
George, considering your age and what you want the bike for. I would go with the cheaper one. If it doesn't work right for you wal-mart has a good return policy. You asked for thoughts and that is my .02...............Bob
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Hey Bob! What are you trying to tell me? That the bike might out live me? :)
 
Age and Roading

Just wondering if my pups age matters he is 8 months old and I want to start doing a little more with him to get him physically ready for the season and after reading this post I think i might invest in one of the bike attachments. I currently take him out twice a day for about a 2 mile light jog/walk and a romp in the park to play a game of fetch. Any ideas as to if this roading thing could damage my buddy as he is still growing?
 
I don't see where it would hurt your pup as long as you don't over do it. Go just fast enough so he has to run and limit the distance until he builds up some stamina.

It helps if your dog knows what "Heel" means and will heel at your side. Take it slow at first until they get the hang of it. Yesterday my Brittany kept wanting to come in closer to the bike. She finally got close enough that I clipped her foot with the tire. Didn't hurt her and it was a lesson well learned. She stayed a good distance from the bike after that.

My breeder/trainer tells me that 8-10 mph for 20 minutes will keep an adult dog in very good condition. But you need to work up to the 20 minutes and shorten it in warm weather.
 
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