Does anyone butt bang?

Crossing shot

Crossing shot

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I am a decent shot. However, I always miss one presentation, long, slightly quartering shots. Much like trap shots.

I shot a round of trap years ago. I liked my score and went on to skeet. This year I went back to the trap field. It wasn't as easy as I first believed. On straightaway shots, I have to pull the trigger about a half foot before the gun passes the clay.

Now I think I should try butt bang on those long, slightly quartering shots instead of butt, belly, beak and bang. I have a weird swing which leads to short leads on the skeet field. It seems logical I should try pulling the trigger when the barrel passes the rooster's butt. I can never remember hitting one of these shots before so I must try something different.

I will be fortunate to get 20 shots this year. I would like to make every shot count. Does anyone butt bang?
 
Interesting topic / I am sure you grinned a bit before you posted it .

OSP shooting schools website has a lot of good technique on different presentations . I would check it out and see if it helps . Good for you practicing before season !!!
 
Slightly quartering and straight aways are tough shots. The straighter the pheasant is flying away, the more hurried the shot because the pheasant is gaining distance faster than any other type of shot. With slight quartering, tough to lead.
 
41magsnub said:
Can you define butt bang for me? I'm afraid to google it. :eek:
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I was almost afraid to open the thread after I read the title. :) But I guess "butt bangers" are welcome here too!! :D
 
Dakotazeb said:
I was almost afraid to open the thread after I read the title.
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Yeah. lol

I often miss those shot's too Crossing Shot;). Missed an nice rooster last year because he was quickly elevating straight-away, at the same time quartering hard to the right. For some reason that seems to be a very difficult shot to make compared to other flushing positions.

Nick
 
I used the first and last word in a popular shooting routine.

Funny.

Anyway, has anyone tried pulling the trigger on a long, slightly quartering bird before the barrel first touches the bird (swing thru)?

I think this is what I might try. I have tried no lead and various leads over the years.
 
All I know is if I think about it I will miss. If it is reasonable range it is probably still rising a little, therefore you need to be out in front and up
 
Just watched a helpful video given by (Gil Ashe) who is a shooting guru.

He maintains gun speed needs to match the bird speed - especially on crossers. Too long to elaborate here; google his site for some helpful info..
 
My eyes never leave the bird's head. If I cannot see the bird's head I will look at the leading edge nearest the bird's head. I can look at the bird's head and pull the trigger when the gun hits the bird's butt. Again this is just for long slightly quartering shots.

These are shots that if you do not shoot fast you are out of luck. Maybe some of you are fast enough to mount your gun, match speed and pull the trigger. I am not. I have to accept the fact my reflexes cannot do this. Hence my barrel will be traveling faster than the rooster for the long slightly quartering shot. The best course of action for me seems to be butt banging.

As you can tell from my user name, I like crossing shots. I do maintain speed on these shots. Trying to ensure I can handle any shot. This means learning the swing thru method. Surely Gil Ash uses the swing thru method on some presentations like skeet station eight.
 
For me shooting is instinctual. I killed my first bird when I was 11. Hunted a bunch of quail when I was a kid. I have missed a lot too. When I shoot to instinct I shoot well. When I think about it too much I miss.
 
carptom1 said:
For me shooting is instinctual. I killed my first bird when I was 11. Hunted a bunch of quail when I was a kid. I have missed a lot too. When I shoot to instinct I shoot well. When I think about it too much I miss.
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Same here , put the gun on em , focus on the front end of the bird and let your on board computer take over !!!

A little practice like you have been doing is the key , you will build memory when you start regular breaking this target .

Gun's got to be somewhere close to fitting though .
 
I'm the same way too. Before I start a hunt I always shoulder my gun and swing it back and forth (side to side), up and down just get a "flow-through" feel going. From there, I don't think about or invasion any shot in my head. I block any thoughts of flushing roosters. Strange I know. lol

When they flush, I shoulder my gun and the brain takes over from there.

Nick
 
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For most folks, the first time in your life you pick up a shotgun, you close an eye. That what your instinct tells you to do.

Experience of shooting a lot of birds will trump instinct. Unfortunately, new bird hunters do not have the opportunity to shoot a lot of birds.
 
sidexsides shoot instinctively. I really do not see the barrel, just pull the trigger when it hits the shoulder. The gun is following my left arm. If close and going away, I have to consciously make sure the bird is on top of the barrels and not shoot to quick if it's struggling out of heavy cover or I'll have pheasant burger. I do not "back" well because I get out of synch on the instinct if I have to wait. I just let the other guy shoot and hold my gun down waiting to see if another pops up.
 
Uncle Buck said:
I do not "back" well because I get out of synch on the instinct if I have to wait.
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Uncle Buck, what do you mean by "back"?

Crossing shot said:
Experience of shooting a lot of birds will trump instinct. Unfortunately, new bird hunters do not have the opportunity to shoot a lot of birds.
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I don't know Crossing Shot. When I was a boy--my first year of hunting wild pheasants was nothing else than watching roosters fly off into the sunset. My nerves (pressure from my dad) was so great I literally didn't shot at the birds. I'd lock up. The following year, my dad was in some thick cover so I was basically alone. Pressure and over thinking wasn't a problem. I finally took a shot and dropped a nice rooster. I can remember to this day, NOT remembering the actual process of taking the shot. It was automatic--and I'll use the word "instinctive" because that seems to be what everyone is referring it too.

My cousin couldn't hit a thing. One of the worst shots I've seen. I told him to not think about the shot. Pull the gun and let his brain do the work. He tried it and it worked. Not much get's past him at this point.

Anyway, we're probably screwing you up over here aren't we? lol


Nick
 
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