Brittany pup / started dog

BRITTMAN said:
Sorry Zeb and with all due respect to your dog and the lady in the photo above.
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I'm lost. Please explain this statement.

Also explain the purpose, or point you are trying to make, with the last several posts.
 
jmac said:
Britman please explain your comment to zeb. zebs elly is one of the top brits in the usa.
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jmac, thanks for the complement but saying Elle is one of the top Britts in the US is quite a stretch. She is one heck of a dog though.
 
The lady that is referred to is my roan Britt in the photo above. I do not want to insult her. Zeb - well no insult intended, just a poke.

Zeb's dog only got the "best Britt" when the torch was passed from my dog when she retired herself at 12. Died at 14 a few years back.

Anyone who hunted with my Rox said the same thing...

One of my landowners used to speed 45 minutes (he had moved to town) when he knew I was around his property. He said she made birds appear where they should and should not be ...

I have immediately walked into an area "behind" four guys with four labs and shot 3 roosters over 3 points.

I used to hunt hours with her without ever saying a word.

Have had others put their dog in the truck or leave their dog in the truck so they could hunt with her unimpeded.

On many occasions I would walk past her point, reach down and grab the WILD rooster and throw it in the air. Parlor trick - I suppose, but it did impress quite a few...
 
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BRITTMAN said:
Good Britts do not have to come from top trial breeders.
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I, and I'm sure most, would agree with you. But you do want to get a pup, of any breed, from a reputable breeder. One that is doing the hip check and the other things to make sure that they are producing quality dogs. One that is breeding to enhance the breed.
 
The easiest way to prove your dog is supposidely the best pheasant Brit, would be to enter it in the American Brittany Club Pheasant Championship. 50-80 of the best Brits enter the Pheasant Championship every year. IMO, that's a pretty good indicator of how good your dog is compared to other brits when hunting pheasants!
 
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Dakotazeb said:
I, and I'm sure most, would agree with you. But you do want to get a pup, of any breed, from a reputable breeder. One that is doing the hip check and the other things to make sure that they are producing quality dogs. One that is breeding to enhance the breed.
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Agree. All my dogs have come from long-term reputable breeders that are dedicated to Brittanys and maintaining their business reputation.

I prefer going with known (repeated) breeding and those offering multi-year health warranties. Albeit it would not do me much good on a return because the dog is family first and would not be dropped off to be destroyed because of a health issue. I guess I would be asking for my money back though. Have never had to face that issue.
 
jetjockey said:
The easiest way to prove your dog is supposidely the best pheasant Brit, would be to enter it in the American Brittany Club Pheasant Championship. 50-80 of the best Brits enter the Pheasant Championship every year. IMO, that's a pretty good indicator of how good your dog is compared to other brits when hunting pheasants!
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Released birds or all wild ? Preserve and released birds DO NOT count for nothing.

When your dog moves ahead of a running rooster and pins him facing you as you approach the bird ... then you got a good one. That is not something you train into a dog. It is a combination of experience and quick thinking.
 
A few years ago (long time ago now actually) I was at a training session run by local AKC Britt owners.

I was going to run my pup through a small field of grass. A club guy comes up to me and says "better wait" ... "don't bother a brace of the best FC Britts just ran through that field and there are no planted or flighted birds left in there."

I say - that is OK - I just want to let her stretch her legs and have a little fun. She is just 7 months old. A sparrow and a grasshopper are her first finds. Then ... Forty yards and two hard points later and the guy comes up and says where did you buy your pup.

Guess any FC bird dog can have an off day ;)

Two months later she is pictured above with a pair of wild roosters shot over her at 9 months old.
 
In many cases I will argue that Brittanys that run REAL big do a disservice to many novice Brittany owners.

Many of us here on this site that have experience with hunting over pointers learn to work with range ... but those (novice) that want to try a pointing dog and pick the Brittany because they want a pointer within foot range (debatable, but I will say 30 - 80 yards is good in most MN situations) are quickly disheartened to have dogs run too big or off the property they are allowed to hunt on.

I love my GPS astro. Not because my dogs run a big range, but because I can find them on point when in high grass or in dense grouse woods.

Where I hunt many pheasant rooster run way ahead, but enough also learn to hold and cut back. Dogs that are mid range (again my number of 30-80 yards) do best in my experience on wild roosters.

Sure - like Zep - if I am in wide open ag or short grass country (sharps, chickens or pheasants) ... I will let my dogs run big ... but that is NOT a quarter section out. Leave that to the english pointers.
 
Luckily the great Brits know the difference between trialing and hunting, and range accordingly. Many also spend all their summers in SD hunting wild pheasants, chickens, and Sharptails. I know for a fact that you can take a well bred trial Brit that's perfectly happy at 500-700 yards off hose on GPS, put it in the quail woods under a completely amateur handler who has only hunted 2-3 times, and watch that Brit perform flawlessly and handle like a dream without any hacking. You can take that same dog to SD and watch it mop up wild pheasants like its no big deal, while placing several times in the ABC Pheasant Championship. Then again, that dog spends EVERY summer being run on wild pheasants, so they are no big deal to that dog. I've also watched a NFC Brittany that made wild birds look like kids play in the SD prairies. Heck, I've seen the winningest trial Brit of all time run in the prairies on wild birds. It was truly an honor to see such a dog make wild pheasants and wild sharptail look stupid.
 


This little Dog is starting to become lots of fun , Hope to get my Johny House put out on a nearby pasture sometime in September and get some bird work in .
 
Good stuff looks like she is really putting it together. My girl has had some pigeon work but no other bird contact so far .

These little guys seem to put it together pretty good , I had a Ks renegade Kidd/ lobos cotton candy pup point and hold birds at 4 months old .


Your dog is intense on birds I like that in a dog .
 



Under one year old on point (wild rooster). We had our birds so we were snapping a photo or two. Wish I had more. Can't figure out why she has 3 collars on ...
 
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Elle pointing a wild rooster at 4 months.

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