What would your reaction be?

When you're hunting public, as long as the invaders are safe not sure there's a legitimate complaint that goes beyond we were here first. The best thing is try to take advantage of the situation. A big party will move almost all the birds in the area they cover. Position yourself to take advantage of that if possible. One time five of us were taking a line down a half of CRP walk-in. Two random pickups pulled up adjacently and three hunters emerged and joined our line, just like that, no conversation. I moved my group over to make room. They had a good dog. They were safe and silent. The other two in their group drove to the end of the walk-in and blocked. All in all, they improved the hunt. Weird but OK.
 
Again why I don’t hunt opening weekend or even the second weekend. Today well into the second month of season(state not mentioned) I hunted several public spots and never saw another hunter.
 
I'm not ok with people coming into the area I'm hunting usually.If it's big, I don't care.Like someone said,it can be a good situation.
 
I stay away from openning weekend and have done so for the part 20 years. I enjoy contributing to the out of state licenses and working my dogs without a traffic jam. Its every where.
 
CharBroiled said:
On Opening Day, I had a friend hunting an area of public hunting which required a check-in and non toxic shot. While they are in the field or just beginning, SEVENTEEN pickups all from Texas rolled up on them (in a quarter section) and hunters poured out of the trucks. My friend kind of asked, "hey what's going on" to which he was told "This is public hunting, we can hunt it and we will. You just stay on your half." They lined up and started marching.
My friend's dog went on point. Before he could get over to her, someone from the group ran over and shot the pointed rooster over my friend's dog. If it was me, I think I would have probably lost my mind a little. And probably would have made a quick call because I'm willing to wager none of those guys checked in or had non-toxic shot. What about y'all?

I've been walked in on, on WIHA in Edwards County. Four of us had just started, working a treeline when we shot a rooster and busted a covey of quail as a convoy of Arkansas hunters drove by. They must of heard us shoot as they drove down about a quarter mile or so, jumped out of the trucks, spread out and walked at us. When they were about 75 yards away, they swung out wide and went away from us at a 90 degree angle. Yeah, I did yell a little about being safe. We realized they had ruined our hunt so we started trekking back to our starting point. There was a guy from Kansas, basically guiding this group from Arkansas, sitting in his truck. I was mad enough to chew rocks and spit sand, so I yelled at him. He did a lot of him-hawing and sputtering because I think he realized how in the wrong his party actually was.

We're getting close to someone getting shot in an accident and there being no repercussions or consequences from irresponsibility.
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From Arkansas and had the opposite happen. Drove into a private land spot with a person that worked for the owner, that only we had permission to be on. When we got there, there were about 4 Kansas trucks parked on the road just short of where we were going to hunt. We drove down and parked and the “guide” and his friends were 300 yards into our field with their dogs pushing toward the neighboring field that they had permission on. Using dogs and pushing birds off the land they didn’t have permission to be on and into their field. They didn’t shoot, but they sure made it where we wouldn’t either.

When they saw us, they turned and made a B line back toward their trucks trying to avoid us. Our guy and their guide had words and it ended with their guide admitting he was wrong and they would leave if we didn’t call the owners or G&F. Not sure what eventually happened, but it wasn’t the first time the other guide was caught doing this.

As a resident of a state that doesn’t have pheasant, I’m all for residents getting dibs. I follow the laws of the state I’m in and, being a landowner myself, I stay off places I don’t have permission to be on. Unfortunately, its guys like this that give out of staters a bad rep.
 
Obi_Wan said:
From Arkansas and had the opposite happen. Drove into a private land spot with a person that worked for the owner, that only we had permission to be on. When we got there, there were about 4 Kansas trucks parked on the road just short of where we were going to hunt. We drove down and parked and the “guide” and his friends were 300 yards into our field with their dogs pushing toward the neighboring field that they had permission on. Using dogs and pushing birds off the land they didn’t have permission to be on and into their field. They didn’t shoot, but they sure made it where we wouldn’t either.

When they saw us, they turned and made a B line back toward their trucks trying to avoid us. Our guy and their guide had words and it ended with their guide admitting he was wrong and they would leave if we didn’t call the owners or G&F. Not sure what eventually happened, but it wasn’t the first time the other guide was caught doing this.

As a resident of a state that doesn’t have pheasant, I’m all for residents getting dibs. I follow the laws of the state I’m in and, being a landowner myself, I stay off places I don’t have permission to be on. Unfortunately, its guys like this that give out of staters a bad rep.
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So Kansas residents with a guide? Most guides in Kansas are NR's. Take a look at most of the outfitters websites and you will find a large percentage don't have Kansas phone numbers. They generally are NR's leasing land.
 
This guy had a very large Kansas phone number on his truck. All the trucks had Kansas license plates. The Kansas resident we were with said the guide was from Kansas and he knew him. Maybe they weren't from there, but all signs said they were.

Not trying to be a problem here but I've seen this go both ways. Its imperative that people like me coming from another state follow the laws of the state we are in and are respectful of other hunters. I've seen it go poorly firsthand. I've seen cut fences, gates left open, trespassing, etc... By in state and out of state residents.
 
Obi_Wan said:
This guy had a very large Kansas phone number on his truck. All the trucks had Kansas license plates. The Kansas resident we were with said the guide was from Kansas and he knew him. Maybe they weren't from there, but all signs said they were.

Not trying to be a problem here but I've seen this go both ways. Its imperative that people like me coming from another state follow the laws of the state we are in and are respectful of other hunters. I've seen it go poorly firsthand. I've seen cut fences, gates left open, trespassing, etc... By in state and out of state residents.
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You need to post his number then. That is the only way to make it hard on the outfitters and force the state legislature to do something about them. Otherwise, people will keep using them. Most of my bad encounters are NR's nowadays. We just don't have near the resident hunters that we had back in the day. When I began hunting back in the day, you very seldom saw a NR hunter. Now there is just as many NR as resident hunters.
 
westksbowhunter said:
You need to post his number then. That is the only way to make it hard on the outfitters and force the state legislature to do something about them. Otherwise, people will keep using them. Most of my bad encounters are NR's nowadays. We just don't have near the resident hunters that we had back in the day. When I began hunting back in the day, you very seldom saw a NR hunter. Now there is just as many NR as resident hunters.
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I don't have his number. Its been about 3 years now. If I had it, I would post it.

Like I said, not trying to be a problem here. Its not going to solve anything. I guess the point I was trying to make is that not all non-resident hunters are bad. Have a great day.
 
Obi_Wan said:
I don't have his number. Its been about 3 years now. If I had it, I would post it.

Like I said, not trying to be a problem here. Its not going to solve anything. I guess the point I was trying to make is that not all non-resident hunters are bad. Have a great day.
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Shit people are shit people, regardless of where they are from. But Kansas residents deserve the opening weekend by themselves.
 
Just don't have issues like that in Iowa, most non-res don't bother....except some scourge from the north drip down once in a while...oops, sorry Bob and MiniHunter;)
 
I think the issue with us MN guys is the number of hunters we have here versus the amount of pheasant land. If guys get used to having to be A-holes to get hunts in, they go to other states and carry those habits. Just take a look at the acres of pheasant habitat vs the number of license holders. Not excusing it, and especially not excusing breaking the law. But if you are law-abiding and are used to needing to be a bit forceful in your presence to hunt an area, you're going to carry those habits with you wherever you go. Me, I saw a ton of pressure on opening weekend, and every weekend since has been quiet. Plenty of land to roam and only twice this year did I not get my two birds. I am thankful I have not had to deal with high hunter numbers. Some reports make it sound like it's damn near impossible to find an open parking area. After the second weekend, you're pretty much good to go anywhere and park right before shooting time. Remy, if you see scourge with MN plates, just remember they're probably cheese heads that transplanted to MN
 
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