The flush

I've got a buddy and he'd been hunting a great pheasant area for 25 years give or take. At the campground he used the most campsites he ever saw occupied was three, this was during opening week. The Flush did a show there, going on about how great the hunting was and how it was off the radar of well known spots. The next year he showed up and the campground was teeming with hunters with license plates from across the country. He had a new SUV pull up to his spot the next morning with California plates. They got to chatting and he asked, "how did you end up out here?" The reply was, "we saw an episode of the flush." I'm not against a tv show that explains upland hunting to the public. But putting specific locations on blast to the world is something I can never agree with.
Same thing with a Oklahoma wma in 2016.. used to be a gold mine, Sunday I spoke with a party of 8 from New York.. why are you here I asked, the flush!
 
I've got a buddy and he'd been hunting a great pheasant area for 25 years give or take. At the campground he used the most campsites he ever saw occupied was three, this was during opening week. The Flush did a show there, going on about how great the hunting was and how it was off the radar of well known spots. The next year he showed up and the campground was teeming with hunters with license plates from across the country. He had a new SUV pull up to his spot the next morning with California plates. They got to chatting and he asked, "how did you end up out here?" The reply was, "we saw an episode of the flush." I'm not against a tv show that explains upland hunting to the public. But putting specific locations on blast to the world is something I can never agree with.
That's what happened in that Lewistown area, every swing and dick with a shotgun showed up there about 5 years ago after that flush thing.
 
I've met Ron Schara a couple times. He, Bill Sherk, and Lara Schara used to host the annual Crappie Contest on Lake Minnetonka through Minnesota Bound. MN Bound the show is still on NBC every Sunday night. The original black lab was Raven. Currently its a black lab named Millie.

MN Bound passed it to another entity last year. This photo is from May 2023.
 

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Aren't you the one on the Lewistown MT thread who said there is good hunting there, and then asked at least 4 times recently what the report is from Lewistown.....??
Yeah I mentioned it, it's pretty much the only place in Montana that everybody from out of state knows about.
 
Millie is a black lab owned by Scott Franson. I believe that he now owns The Flush TV show with Travis Frank and Tyler Webster as hosts. Bill Sherk, I think, is taking a lesser role and Ron S makes a guest appearance once in a while.
 
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Some of you guys really take the cake! Goose whines about hot spotting Lewistown, MT while hot spotting Lewistown. How much hypocrisy and jealousy can one guy have? Its real easy to get on a high horse and say put your own time in scouting when you live in the area. Its hardly practical for some guys to drive 5-10-15 hours one way to scout a place out blindly. If a state says hey our road sided counts were high in Bon Homme, Day, Lincoln, Renville and Coddington county are they hot spotting? Then of course, we shun people who bite the bullet and pay a lodge for hunting(even if flare nares) and lodging so at least they got something going or don't know any other way??

"The Flush" serves a purpose. It exposes a lot of the good we do as a hunting community and if that generates interest or $ for it, great. Wild upland is ok but it really is mostly a dog breeder advertisement it seems. It is Gundog Magazine after all. They could edit out "Good boy, Jones!" about 99 percent of the time. But hey I'll still watch it. And if it gets women in the field, that's great, too. At least it is nowhere near as bad as deer hunting shows. Those might as well be on QVC or some self gratification porno channel (north american whitetail comes to mind)

Upland hunting, IMO, is a very personal experience. Everyone has different expectations or definition of what it is to them. But, please enlighten me about my Gucci vest while you fondle your "classic" shotgun and designer ammo and poorly trained dog...HAHAHA these are wild times in deed
 
Some of you guys really take the cake! Goose whines about hot spotting Lewistown, MT while hot spotting Lewistown. How much hypocrisy and jealousy can one guy have? Its real easy to get on a high horse and say put your own time in scouting when you live in the area. Its hardly practical for some guys to drive 5-10-15 hours one way to scout a place out blindly. If a state says hey our road sided counts were high in Bon Homme, Day, Lincoln, Renville and Coddington county are they hot spotting? Then of course, we shun people who bite the bullet and pay a lodge for hunting(even if flare nares) and lodging so at least they got something going or don't know any other way??

"The Flush" serves a purpose. It exposes a lot of the good we do as a hunting community and if that generates interest or $ for it, great. Wild upland is ok but it really is mostly a dog breeder advertisement it seems. It is Gundog Magazine after all. They could edit out "Good boy, Jones!" about 99 percent of the time. But hey I'll still watch it. And if it gets women in the field, that's great, too. At least it is nowhere near as bad as deer hunting shows. Those might as well be on QVC or some self gratification porno channel (north american whitetail comes to mind)

Upland hunting, IMO, is a very personal experience. Everyone has different expectations or definition of what it is to them. But, please enlighten me about my Gucci vest while you fondle your "classic" shotgun and designer ammo and poorly trained dog...HAHAHA these are wild times in deed
Well f$&@ing said.
 
Some of you guys really take the cake! Goose whines about hot spotting Lewistown, MT while hot spotting Lewistown. How much hypocrisy and jealousy can one guy have? Its real easy to get on a high horse and say put your own time in scouting when you live in the area. Its hardly practical for some guys to drive 5-10-15 hours one way to scout a place out blindly. If a state says hey our road sided counts were high in Bon Homme, Day, Lincoln, Renville and Coddington county are they hot spotting? Then of course, we shun people who bite the bullet and pay a lodge for hunting(even if flare nares) and lodging so at least they got something going or don't know any other way??

"The Flush" serves a purpose. It exposes a lot of the good we do as a hunting community and if that generates interest or $ for it, great. Wild upland is ok but it really is mostly a dog breeder advertisement it seems. It is Gundog Magazine after all. They could edit out "Good boy, Jones!" about 99 percent of the time. But hey I'll still watch it. And if it gets women in the field, that's great, too. At least it is nowhere near as bad as deer hunting shows. Those might as well be on QVC or some self gratification porno channel (north american whitetail comes to mind)

Upland hunting, IMO, is a very personal experience. Everyone has different expectations or definition of what it is to them. But, please enlighten me about my Gucci vest while you fondle your "classic" shotgun and designer ammo and poorly trained dog...HAHAHA these are wild times in deed
That is a good point, some people have to pay Hunt, some people have to be Gucci and stay at a lodge, some people need these TV shows like The flash to figure out how to hunt. The thing is some of these states are getting overrun with hunters in certain areas. I've been seeing it in the last 5 years or so.
 
Aren't you the one on the Lewistown MT thread who said there is good hunting there, and then asked at least 4 times recently what the report is from Lewistown.....??
Yeah I know that was hypocritical on my part, and I have said in the past that there was good hunting there, and there did used to be good hunting there, but I think this social media and all these TV shows are really putting a lot of people into that area.
 
I've met Ron a few times, hunted with him once. He used to hunt around my farm in MN. Very nice guy. The area I grew up in was a popular upland and waterfowl "destination" in the 80's & 90's and to a lesser extent, the early 2000's. We used to have 1 or 2 TV hosts come around every fall. Some were well mannered and some were straight up d-bags.
 
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The viewership for those shows such as the Flush and RoosterTails are simply pheasant hunters now a bit board in the off season ... few if any people channel surfing stop and watch a program like that.

Assume these shows come to Bally's or whatever channel with prepackaged advertising (sponsors) build in ... almost like an infomercial so it costs them next to nothing to purchase and put on the air ?? Someone enlighten us on that...

Circling back ... these shows need to be a bit more careful in hot spotting areas that are often localized.
 
The viewership for those shows such as the Flush and RoosterTails are simply pheasant hunters now a bit board in the off season ... few if any people channel surfing stop and watch a program like that.

Assume these shows come to Bally's or whatever channel with prepackaged advertising (sponsors) build in ... almost like an infomercial so it costs them next to nothing to purchase and put on the air ?? Someone enlighten us on that...

Circling back ... these shows need to be a bit more careful in hot spotting areas that are often localized.
They did a show about Lewistown, and I was out in that area, and I would say a week after that show aired on television, I probably ran into 50 hunters from out of state and I talked to some of them, and they came there just because of that show. I remember back in the late '80s early '90s, my dad telling me that Lewistown was not what it was in the '60s and '70s and even '80s. It was getting way more difficult to get permission on ranches, and there were a few ranchers that were starting to charge people. I remember looking at pics of my dad and his buddy actually hunting pheasants right around Bozeman and Belgrade!! Unbelievable.
 
The viewership for those shows such as the Flush and RoosterTails are simply pheasant hunters now a bit board in the off season ... few if any people channel surfing stop and watch a program like that.

Assume these shows come to Bally's or whatever channel with prepackaged advertising (sponsors) build in ... almost like an infomercial so it costs them next to nothing to purchase and put on the air ?? Someone enlighten us on that...

Circling back ... these shows need to be a bit more careful in hot spotting areas that are often localized.

I can't say for certain with those shows, but I know of a few different hunting and fishing shows airing mainly in the upper midwest that are 100% presented "infomercial" style. They buy the airtime for the show and any ads shown are sponsors of the show itself and packaged/edited into the episode by the show runner, not the TV station airing the episode.
 
There are a lot of retired boomers out there with nothing but time on their hands and money to burn.

There are quite a few 30–45-year-olds out there that hit it big on the net, live off their parent's dime, and/or have no children and travel on a whim too. That crowd seems to be more waterfowl focused, but hey may be they are multi-tasking now.

The guys in-between are working their a$$ off to pay their kid's expenses and/or save for retirement so they can be in line one of this post.
 
Boy, I could make a really long post on hunting tv shows, trends in the demographic, subgauge shotguns, pointing flushers and flushing pointers, versatile dogs, un-versatile dogs, group-hunting grab ass, fancy lodges and pen-raised puddin' head birds, hunters that are too high strung, why birds in Coddington county are so tough to kill whereas Grant county I've popped quite a few, video guys and the truth about hunting in Lewistown, hidden hotspots in Hilger, and how to get on with just a smile and a sixer of PBR....
 
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