Social security benefits question

benelli-banger

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My mom’s last pmt was received on 12/3/25; she died 12/28/25; I received a letter today demanding full repayment of her last pmt…again, made on 12/3/25. I’ve done some research and have gotten conflicting answers…some info suggests her benefits pmt received on 12/3/25 was for November, and she’s entitled to keep it…makes sense to me. Other info suggests we need to refund what was received on 12/3/25, as she died during that month. Any experience with this? I’m on hold with SSA, and I’ll follow up with local office as well. Thx in advance.
 
I thought the payment you received was for the previous month, meaning payments are a month behind. Maybe a scam or something but I would pay them squat back. I am going to be drawing my social security next year.
 
I thought the payment you received was for the previous month, meaning payments are a month behind. Maybe a scam or something but I would pay them squat back. I am going to be drawing my social security next year.
That’s what my research indicates as well…I’m on hold with SSA, will post what I learn from my call and an in-person appt…thanks for your info!
 
Id recommend contacting them again, tell them she had opened a child care facility right before she passed , you desperately needed the continued support for the kiddos!
 
So sorry for your loss BB. Your mom’s December payment was for November, as payments are delayed one month - found out first hand - my full retirement pmt fell on the month of January 66 4 mo) & first pmt received in February
So your challenge to SSA on her Dec payment makes sense - I’m sure your local office will clarify: she is also entitled to a $255 death benefit. 🙏
 
So sorry for your loss BB. Your mom’s December payment was for November, as payments are delayed one month - found out first hand - my full retirement pmt fell on the month of January 66 4 mo) & first pmt received in February
So your challenge to SSA on her Dec payment makes sense - I’m sure your local office will clarify: she is also entitled to a $255 death benefit. 🙏
Thx…they sent a pmt on 1/2/26 that her bank sent back because she died, SSA letter was sent before they realized pmt wasn’t retained in the bank acct…appreciate your help!
 
Lots of old guys here, figured someone had dealt with this before. Lots of good pheasant hunting information likely found on financial forums as well…you never know! Take it with a grain of salt. I posted while on hold with SSA…had to call back the morning after to finally get a live agent, and the answer that the letter I received was incorrect. Overall, I’m pretty open-minded about knowledge, and where it may be found…wouldn’t end my pursuit of the correct answer with the responses gleaned here, but curious what I might pick up from this group…lots of smart guys here who’ve experienced a lot. Would I come here to solicit advice regarding when to take social security? No. That’d be even more contentious than the debate about if, and at what range, is the 28 gauge suitable for pheasant hunting? Discerning minds know the answers to these disparate topics are quite obvious! 😆 Oh, the $255 death benefit pmt isn’t a given, there are conditions required in order to receive it. Wasn’t paid when my dad died 4 months ago, nor will it be paid in this case with my mom’s passing. They were divorced, never remarried, had no children entitled to survivors benefits. It’s $255…that’s all I’ll say about that..😝
 
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You can't see me smiling through the computer screen. I was trying to be silly in my own weird way. I know you respect the opinions of others on this site. With the exceptions of a token few most seem to be pretty stand up guys. We share the same passion. Good luck dealing with anything related to your government. For a long time they were only there to serve one segment of the population. Now what age should I start collecting? Currently 68 don't need the money. My CPA MBA son says wait till 70. Give me a reason to get past 80.
 
You can't see me smiling through the computer screen. I was trying to be silly in my own weird way. I know you respect the opinions of others on this site. With the exceptions of a token few most seem to be pretty stand up guys. We share the same passion. Good luck dealing with anything related to your government. For a long time they were only there to serve one segment of the population. Now what age should I start collecting? Currently 68 don't need the money. My CPA MBA son says wait till 70. Give me a reason to get past 80.
I kinda figured! 70…your son is right! 🤩
 
Family genetics is a reason.
Years to recover bypassed benefits another
Certainly a lot to consider.
Regarding SS & Medicare, I’ll never forget having researched questions documented, prior to calling our local Office. This included IRMAA questions as well. Made the call & 45 minutes later, knew 1) she didn’t know the answers 2) she didn’t care. So called the next day, insuring I had a different person - what a difference!! Simply a fantastic experience. She Went to her supervisor with a couple of the questions, making sure all questions were correct - so be diligent & aware.
Furthermore, if you work up until the time you apply for Medicare, be aware that they go back two years for your income - your monthly premiums are based on your earnings, again 2 years back. Form SSA-44 is a change in life form (such as retirement), that allows you to project future income, and potentially avoid IRMAA.
Lastly, never did we imagine spending so much time (and expense) on medical, after retiring. The sheer amount of paperwork is ridiculous.
We shop our drug plan every year (another lesson learned)
BB, you’re right - some good info on this site, beyond our beloved upland hunting.
 
It's kind of a crap shoot really. The gov'mt actuaries have it all figured out. It's up to the individual to decide. I'm kind of a gambler. By waiting I get an 8% raise each year. On top of that my cola will be figured on the date I start collecting, so I get an 8% better per year cola than the guy that claimed 62 or FRA. I pay 2 or 3 times what most people pay for IRMAA. That's the penalty for doing well in America. It's still way better insurance for far less money than I had as a self employed person. My premiums were 16k plus 10k deductible. So 26k out of pocket before help came along. I set aside some cash to live off in t bill accounts. I have yet to touch my investments. Everything I own is paid for. Last year my investments made many times more than my needs so I am still increasing my NW. I'm really kind of cheap I still pick up change in the parking lot. I buy great value products at Walmart. If I have a big day in the market I might do Culvers. I never made a lot of money until my investments started kicking in. I never bought anything I could not pay cash for. Today I have a fleet of nice vehicles, 1m plus home, place up north etc. All my grand kids collage will be funded. Listen to Warren. Anyone can become a millionaire. Well I have been single for 33 years, don't drink, don't smoke. That helps.
An once of 5's 1200 plus IC over a pointing dog.
 
It's kind of a crap shoot really. The gov'mt actuaries have it all figured out. It's up to the individual to decide. I'm kind of a gambler. By waiting I get an 8% raise each year. On top of that my cola will be figured on the date I start collecting, so I get an 8% better per year cola than the guy that claimed 62 or FRA. I pay 2 or 3 times what most people pay for IRMAA. That's the penalty for doing well in America. It's still way better insurance for far less money than I had as a self employed person. My premiums were 16k plus 10k deductible. So 26k out of pocket before help came along. I set aside some cash to live off in t bill accounts. I have yet to touch my investments. Everything I own is paid for. Last year my investments made many times more than my needs so I am still increasing my NW. I'm really kind of cheap I still pick up change in the parking lot. I buy great value products at Walmart. If I have a big day in the market I might do Culvers. I never made a lot of money until my investments started kicking in. I never bought anything I could not pay cash for. Today I have a fleet of nice vehicles, 1m plus home, place up north etc. All my grand kids collage will be funded. Listen to Warren. Anyone can become a millionaire. Well I have been single for 33 years, don't drink, don't smoke. That helps.
A once of 5's 1200 plus IC over a pointing dog.
Amen. I like the idea of waiting to take SS for a few reasons, mainly the markedly higher benefit occurring in one’s 70’s and beyond, which doesn’t require any decision making regarding investments. I observed much greater vulnerability and difficulty in decision making in older clients…75? 80? And beyond….if things are going ok with investments at 62 and beyond, spending down some of one’s own $ to afford being able to defer taking SS makes sense to me. My wife worked P/T a bit, but she’ll get 1/2 my benefit while I’m living, then my benefit if I predecease her. I like that knowledge. My goal isn’t to necessarily recover every $ I paid in to SS…lots of people seem to be concerned about that…to each his own. Break even is around 80? 81? If one waits to take. My dad died at 95.5 4 months ago, my mom died at 94 3 weeks ago, FIL is alive and is 92. I’m adopted, birth dad died at 80, birth mom 75, she was a smoker most her life. Building wealth pretty easy…fund your 401k and IRA before anything else…100% equities for a few decades, pray for down markets in your 20’s, 30’s, 40’s…buy low! Target date funds are good route…simple. Started working at 23, retired at 57, put my 3 kids through college, blah, blah, blah…still in first house we bot in 1993, live fairly simply. Current health premium is $2600/month, then deductibles/copayments kick in, same with a few meds. Sold my book of biz, still get a monthly pmt for 2.33 more years. Intend to pass my inheritance on to my kids…gradually, starting about now. Not too gripped by $, never have been, some people are terrified to spend…very sad. I keep my equity $ in low-cost funds, some active, some passive…all fixed $ in individual Treasuries or CD’s, laddered…par value gets returned eventually. 1-2 years spending $/emergency $ in T-bills or Treasury mmkt funds through Vanguard. Money spent hunting never crosses my mind as far as “Should I”? All these years of visiting divorced parents in their respective nursing homes, or just seeing them later in life, pretty much home locked, motivated me to stay active with my dogs. Luckily my wife encourages it…I need to buy her boyfriend(s) a beer! No, a keg! 🤣
 
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