Ruger Red Label?

jetjockey said:
Only, when did they discontinue the White Onyx? They are still on Berettas website and I just saw 3 brand new ones sitting on the shelf. I believe they discontinued the SP I but thy brought it back about a year ago.
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well when i would try to get prices from gun dealers they would tell me they are not making them no more just left overs are out there that would be the gun i would buy i rerally like it but was afraid of the discontiued model. what was the price on the ones sitting on the shelf and in a 26 inch with a glossy finish?
 
I bought a Ruger in May of 1993. It has been through some of the worst duck hunting conditions and has never failed to fire. Because I duck hunt and hunt pheasants on public land I all ways use steel shot. The heavier gun helps cut down on the recoil with the higher velocity shells. I give it 2 thumbs up.
 
I have had my Ruger red label 12 gauge since the mid 80's. I bought it new at a gun show for 750.00. I have shot many pheasants and doves with it I absolutely love it. Like most have said it is heavy to carry and the older I get the heavier it gets. It is the first gun I take to the field with me on pheasant hunts and when it my shoulder starts hurting from carrying it I switch over to my Remington Premier 20 gauge for the remainder of the day. I remember one day the stock had cracked on me 3 weeks prior to a Iowa pheasant hunt. I sent it back to Ruger and had it back with a new stock on it no charge before I left for Iowa, Now that is great service!!! I do highly recommend that gun.
 
I've owned mine for 25 years! The gun shoulders and shoots very naturally. I don't notice the weight so much as I have short barrels. I think the first six shots fired through it took 2 roosters and 4 huns, after that I lost track. The woodwork is beautiful...similar to tiger striping.
 
Olddub. Ok, I get it now, and I agree 100%.

Only.. I just got off the phone with Beretta, according to them they are still building and importing the 686 white onyx. I wouldn't worry about buying a discontinued model though even if they do discontinue the WO. All the 686's are mechanically exactly identicle, and that includes the 687 Silver Pigeons. I would never order a Beretta though. Beretta is notorious for putting UGLY wood on some of their lower grade guns. I would want to see the exact gun before I bought it. My WO has pretty nice wood and my dads SP V has georgous wood, but I've seen a lot of Grade V's with stocks that looked like plywood as well.
 
oh ok i love the white onyx ya when i buy one i have them send me a pic of the exact gun do you know the price of the guns on the shelf in your area the cheapest ive seen one is 1850.00 i tell you also i like the sv10 perinnea for bout 2500 does your dad like his i havnt handled one but man they are sweet! little bit out of my budget 2k is where im stopping
 
They are OK shotguns but too heavy. They also have too much drop in the comb for me. I would look to the Beretta or Browning guns.

Lock and Load! :D
 
A friend was a shooting instructor for Orvis in the past and they had all manner of brands and types of shotguns for the students to use. They shot those guns a lot and although as a lot of other people have pointed out, they are a little heavier than some my friend said that the Rugers were the only brand that never required their gunsmiths to do any work on them.
I have a Browning Citori that I like but it's because it feels right when I mount it. Its drawback is the screws that hold the stock to the action have very narrow slots which require a knife like screw driver to remove to clean the gun. Either that or you have to take a Dremel cutoff wheel and enlarge the slots enough to use a stronger screwdriver. I don't know how they get in there but you wouldn't believe the grass blades and weed seeds that get into the mechanism and cause it to be stiff to operate over time if not cleaned out. Check on the Ruger to see how easy it is to clean the safety and selector mechanism..
 
very narrow slots which require a knife like screw driver to remove to clean the gun.
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European-style screw-heads are a bugger. I have these on several CZ sxs guns. I bought a set of driver bits from Brownell's.
 
Have you looked at the CZ Wingshooter? O/U. As far as O/U go it is reasonable. They also have an Upland Ultalight that is more affordable.

Kick'em up.
 
koja48 said:
European-style screw-heads are a bugger. I have these on several CZ sxs guns. I bought a set of driver bits from Brownell's.
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That's the right way to do it for sure. I went the other way since I think of the gun as a tool more than something to keep pretty. I now have big ugly slots in the screws and can use my Leatherman to fix it if it messes up in the field. I've worn almost all the bluing off the receiver from carrying it anyway and have dings all over the stock from mishaps I don't recall happening so what's a little wider slot among friends?
By the way for those who take your gun apart by removing screws, on the Browning they go into a tang with a curved surface. Apparently they put the screws into the gun and then do the final grinding on the screw heads to curve them flush with the tang. That means you have to get the screws exactly back in the same position or a sharp edge will be above the tang that is irritating. Flat tang, no problem.
 
And whenever you disassemble anything that you've either never been into before or that may have "flying" parts, springs, ball detents, etc., do so inside of a clear plastic bag large enough to accommodate the item & your hands/arms. Saves countless hours of crawling around on the floor, days spent waiting for replacement parts to arrive, and better ensures a place in Heaven 'cuz it really cuts-down on the cussing.
 
koja48 said:
And whenever you disassemble anything that you've either never been into before or that may have "flying" parts, springs, ball detents, etc., do so inside of a clear plastic bag large enough to accommodate the item & your hands/arms. Saves countless hours of crawling around on the floor, days spent waiting for replacement parts to arrive, and better ensures a place in Heaven 'cuz it really cuts-down on the cussing.
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So true. I took a Penn Squider reel apart when I was 13 and didn't get it back together till I was in my 20s because I didn't know where this one flat spring went that flew out when my finger slipped.:laugh:.
 
I own a 20 and a 12 the 20 works great in the grouse woods but I couldn't seem to be able to hit a pheasant with it unless it was a close shot. I bought a 12 two years ago and it has made a huge differace on pheasants for me. The barrels came separated on the 20 and Ruger fixed it free for just had to pay shipping and wait about 5 or 6 weeks to get it back. I think for the money its not a bad gun at all plus it's made in the USA
 
I was extremely disappointed to learn that Ruger had discontinued the Red Label. In his book "Good Guns Again" Stephen Bodio calls the Red Label a "true American Classic". I know the market for field and hunting shotguns has dropped off but still it is sad to see the Red Label go.

I hunt with the Ruger Gold Label and love it and would like to have a Red Label to shoot clays with.
 
I have pheasant hunted with a 12 RL for about five years, you wont get me to switch to different gun. the weight of the gun has never been a problem for me.
 
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