Pudelpointer - Question

walk213

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Pride will be 10 in October. To that point, we will begin to consider a new gun dog. We are big lab fans. Specifically the Grand River Lab that Gary Ruppel breeds. The latest American Hunter Magazine rates the Pudelpointer as the best and most versatile hunting dog.

Our Decision Criteria

-Great family dog
-Great companion
-Great upland dog
-Good waterfowler

Does anyone have any experience with a Pudelpointer?
 
Uncle Buck from South Dakota is our resident Pudelpointer expert. He has bred PP's for years and is very knowledgeable about the breed. He can probably also steer you to a good pup. If he doesn't see your post and respond, here is a link to his profile. Shoot him a PM.

http://www.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/forum/member.php?u=19
 
im sure a PP guy wont have any favs lol if you really want to see a hole line up of versatile gun dog breeds you should check out a local NAVHDA test be it a N/A UPT or UT test in your area B4 you make a decision on replys from guys on-line lol

at these NAVHDA test events there will be nothing but VERSATILE gun dog breeds from PPs to spinones hope i got i write? to large & small munsterlanders griffons draths wirehairs german long haired pointers GSPs french/american brits

& you will be able to watch all these different breeds work in the field & see witch breed you would prefer??? you will also be able to go up & meet all the dogs if the owners are not really anal about there dog meeting new people i had 1 guy when i ran my NAVHDA N/A test only let his dog socialize with people for 3 min at a time every hour or so??? he also had 2 prize 1 dogs also so??? but you will meet some very friendly & knowledgeable VERSATILE gun dog owners that probably know a few great breeders you can talk with also???

the PPs i seen at the NAVHDA event i was at did wonderful bvoth score prize 1s but both were kinda high strung? i mean they would hear a gun shot & drag there owners a few feet closer to the gun-shot lol but they were all biz in the field...

PPs are just to big for me to be honest but they can crash through cattails like nothing i assume???

i would really really look into a few other breeds & try to find 1 that matches what you want out of a dog for hunting/family me if i had to say the best VERSATILE hunting breed is the 1 with a solid owner that hunts them alot each season what ever breed thats the key...

many guys at that NAVHDA TEST had pricey rare dogs & thought that would make up for there lack of training not the case you can have the best genetics in the brood & if you make your dog a couch/house dog & never hunt/train them they will be junk...

after i got my small munsterlander i will have a hard time not owning another SM & ive only had mine 15 months but if i had to make a top 5 list her its goes

1. small or large munsterlander

2. pudlepointer

3. drath or wire haired pointer or griffon all kinda the same just range different in the field


4. pointing lab

5.GSPs & or GLPs

cant forget britts not that they dont duck hunt but i have seen a few britts that didnt really care for the water to awful much but that mite be a rare case???

also gorden setters are great versatile hunting dogs they do it all & love it...
 
Pride will be 10 in October. To that point, we will begin to consider a new gun dog. We are big lab fans. Specifically the Grand River Lab that Gary Ruppel breeds. The latest American Hunter Magazine rates the Pudelpointer as the best and most versatile hunting dog.

Our Decision Criteria

-Great family dog
-Great companion
-Great upland dog
-Good waterfowler

Does anyone have any experience with a Pudelpointer?
I've done a lot of force fetch training for Cedarwood kennels "pudelpointers" most are level headed and take training well if you start them when they're young. If you like and had labs but want a pointer look at www.wesslpointer.com
 
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there are lots of good waterfowl and upland dogs...the best are really good at either upland or waterfowl, but not both.....I own a PP and he is a beast, will go through anything, 88 lbs. and thinks he is a lap dog, but all business in the field....I do very little waterfowling, but he has a nice range and likes to run hard...most PP's would be happier/better field dogs, IMHO.
 
I have 2 PP?s and am hooked on the breed!
Before the PP?s, over the years I had a Drahthaar and 2 Lab?s.
The Drahthaar was an awesome dog but couldn?t keep up with the Lab?s in the water. The Labs were great in the water but not what I wanted for upland.
After the unexpected loss of our Drahthaar; I started doing research on another Drahthaar. In the process I decided to look into the PP (which is one of the foundation breeds of the Drahthaar).
I liked what I saw, and decided to give one a try: I couldn?t be happier! (I have 2 now one 2 years and one 11 weeks).
What I have found in the Pudelpointer is a dog that rivals a Lab in the water and retrieving and can compete with pointers on upland.
Please feel free to pm me with any question!
Best of luck,
Conobirds
 
Thank you all for providing me valuable insight. Our family will absolutely investigate pudelpointers. I want to meet some owners in Colorado to see the breed in person.

I will let everyone know about our progress.
 
I have 2 PP?s and am hooked on the breed!
Before the PP?s, over the years I had a Drahthaar and 2 Lab?s.
The Drahthaar was an awesome dog but couldn?t keep up with the Lab?s in the water. The Labs were great in the water but not what I wanted for upland.
After the unexpected loss of our Drahthaar; I started doing research on another Drahthaar. In the process I decided to look into the PP (which is one of the foundation breeds of the Drahthaar).
I liked what I saw, and decided to give one a try: I couldn?t be happier! (I have 2 now one 2 years and one 11 weeks).
What I have found in the Pudelpointer is a dog that rivals a Lab in the water and retrieving and can compete with pointers on upland.
Please feel free to pm me with any question!
Best of luck,
Conobirds
I believe your 11 week old pup is from Prairie Trout's "O" litter?
 
That is correct!
She is an awesome pup, we had her on birds at 7 week and she took her first swim at 9 weeks.
Here are a couple of pictures from this past weekend. She loves the mountains!
Conobirds
 
That is correct!
She is an awesome pup, we had her on birds at 7 week and she took her first swim at 9 weeks.
Here are a couple of pictures from this past weekend. She loves the mountains!
Conobirds

nice looking pup, trout throws some dandies!
 
nice looking pup, trout throws some dandies!

They sure do!

Sorry walk123... didn't mean to steal your thread. Thought you might like to see her too. Sent you a pm. Let me know if your ever up my way or if you can make it to Fort Collins in Aug. for the NAVHDA tests.
Conobirds
 
Just so you all know, cono's pup is from a litter my son, Chris Clark, whelped in Idaho. I had a male litter mate at my house for a few days before he was picked up by new owner from Devils Lake, ND. Looked pretty much the same.
Our Kennel names are Prairie Trout and Czechmate. The "P" LITTER IS ON THE WAY!
 
Hi Uncle Buck and Conobirds,

We are just starting our search now. We have 2 dogs that are getting up in age.

Bo (non-hunter) is soon to be 11 and Pride is going to be 10. Bo is really slowing down. Pride seems to be ready for the upcoming season. We probably cannot house 3 dogs comfortably.

What are your thoughts on a 1 year old started dog?
 
I get a lot of requests for started dogs. As we saw in a thread here at one time. no one is too definitive on what started means. A one year old Pudelpointer, if it came from me, would be as good a swimmer as it ever would be, have one season under it's belt and be finding, pointing and retrieving birds. Possibly it would have already been NAVHDA Natural Ability tested. It will have been exposed to a lot of birds and time in the field and water, but not steady to wing and shot in most cases.
The next question is how much does one charge for such an animal? That would depend on how much I liked it!(and had in it $wise). I have not done it per se. I think some pups get in "started dog" positions (all breeds) because they do not reach the expectations of the owner or trainer, lack of prey drive perhaps the most common, or they may be a little soft in training. Does not mean the dog would not be perfect for someone else, but proceed with caution. I do not think you will find many started Pudelpointers as there are not enough to go around the way it is, but I am familir with 2-3 over the last 26 years of familiarity with the breed.
Having said all that, I am looking towards retirement and perhaps starting more dogs!
Four pups from last years litters tested to date--NA 112,112, 108 and 103 scores.
 
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