Prairie Chicken Question

KsHusker

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I went out last Saturday and this past Saturday/Sunday on a 2 day trip with the primary intent to just hunt prairie chickens first if I came accross the habitat unless something looked more inviting for quail or pheasants.



Anyways, last Saturday (1-11-14) if any of you locals recall -- was amazing weather -- highs in the 40's or so with a slight wind around 10mph or so most of the day and decent humidity for great scenting conditions.


The one field I would classify as perfect Chicken habitat I hit a gold mine. It had been lightly grazed, had grass at what I would consider the ideal height and density, wide open with some necks and changes in terrain and green forbs and to top it all off, had water and not too far from grain fields.

I had hit the mecca. Every hill top I crested my dog would be on point. I probably found 40-60 + birds in this roughly 100 acre pasture. The best way I can describe it is that it seemed that no matter where we walked a few would get up like meadowlarks all over this place. To make a long story short, I had a friend with me that had never been hunting before in his life so I was concerned about getting him a shot. He did have a couple of gimmes but didnt connect. He had never seen prairie chickens before, but I told him that would be what would be getting up and to make sure and shoot. A lot of birds didnt let us get too close, but I was happy my dog pointed most of the birds, she just didnt handle the straggler (the ones that invaribly sit behind after the primary goup gets up) singles very well due to all of the scent. She did well for 3/4 of the field then busted some birds after she saw we werent getting any shots. This was only the 2nd day all year I had numerous bird contacts so I just called her over to me, made her sit beside me to chill out for a few minutes then she was fine the rest of the time.


This pasture is a roosting area Im most certain. I found Chicken Scat all over. Got into all of these birds around 11-1pm. Went back to this same place on Sunday 1-19-2014 around 11:30am. From the best I could tell no one had hunted this area since I had been there a week prior but found nothing. Still found more Chicken Scat in other areas of the pasture.



Now to get to my question. Ive read that these birds tend to have a schedule later in the year and sometimes can stick to this schedule pretty tightly. I understand near the evening they will tend to fly from feed fields back to their roost. Is there common knowledge that they will tend to fly out somewhere in the mornings on a "routine" to head from loafing/bedding cover to say feed? or is this so called "routine" only something that tends to happen in the evenings.


I was thinking back over the years and I most often get points and find the birds in pasture grounds/their loafing cover/roosting cover from probably 10:30-3:30pm or so and then in the grass again in LARGE flocks right at evening time. By far the BIGGEST flocks Ive ever found in one area have always been in the evening time towards the end of legal shooting time. (Id consider these evening time finds something similar to a covey of quail...ie they are all sitting that close together or similar to a large concentration of pheasants where 50-100 get up at once) My morning/afternoon finds have never been groups this big. Usually just smaller bunches with maybe 30 birds tops. Usually mid day finds are almost quail covey like in that they are 10-15 birds or so. If I said what the size of the largest flock I ever found was, no one would ever believe me, so I'll just keep it to myself. It was 2-3 years ago.

If Ive hunted feed fields during the day my experience has been to find 2-3 here and there, maybe a few more scattered about but Ive never found them in a large flock like Ive seen fly over me at times in the evening or found in the evenings right at the end of the day in grass.


Hope my question makes sense regarding the routine. Ive always been of the impression first thing in the morning the birds fly out from the roost to eat then come back a bit at a time to loafing cover then somehow flock up later in the day again?

I just know how to find their habitat in the pastures and find what fields they may feed in, I still dont quite understand what a typical 9-5 day of a Prairie Chicken normally is...if there is such a thing.


I know not all pheasants will normally adhere to a "strict" schedule per say but they have "typical" daily patterns. I would assume a prairie chicken has something similar?


I guess my question on the schedule thing comes from people pass shooting birds this time of year as Ive read when they fly over you can almost set your alarm clock to it every day. So I would assume maybe there is some other routine Im missing out on that happens the rest of the day?


Thanks -- and by the way - believe it or not on Saturday 1-18-2014, when the wind was howling 35+ all day did find another flock of 20-30 or so birds in a pasture very close to feed. Funny thing was they were down in a gulley/ravine that when you were in the bottom, it almost blocked the wind perfectly. My buddy walked down in the bottom and said you could have heard someone whisper next to you almost. Dogs didnt point these, we just stumbled across them (I think they saw us first and started getting up) but by the way the dogs were acting I think this flock had a lot more birds in it had we been there earlier in the day. Birds were seen around 10:45 am.
 
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wish I could help but I can not...lol I've always wanted to shoot chickens but have not ever had the chance...in my travels in and out and all around the great state of Kansas I have seen many, many, MANY of them but have never hunted them. last year in my travels of hunting quail I saw ALOT of them....while driving back roads and such scouting....saw large flocks in trees...jumped them out of fields...you name it....this season so far I have not seen a single one in the same areas. I hope to some day shoot one over a point. every year I tell myself I'm going to go do September sharptails or chickens but I have a hard time getting off my Harley and it doesn't get done....maybe this year.
 
wish I could help but I can not...lol I've always wanted to shoot chickens but have not ever had the chance...in my travels in .................sharptails or chickens but I have a hard time getting off my Harley and it doesn't get done....maybe this year.


You were in prairie chicken central headquarters on your trip last week. Just need to change up your tactics a bit.
 
lol.....yes I know....its VERY hard to pry me off my quail....:D I don't know all that much about chickens either....I don't like wild goose chases
 
I didn't even buy a permit for them....I was thinking last week...DAMN I'd hate to walk into a point and have a chicken come up and NOT be able to shoot it! :mad:
 
When I used to duck hunt a large pond not far from my house there were quite a few chickens over that direction then.

They definately have a routine in the mornings as well. Same time every morning they would fly over or near my duck blind on the way to a bean field behind me. Could set your watch by it. They would stay for maybe a half hour or so then fly right back the same direction they came from. Not sure if they were headed back to where they roosted the night before or not, or perhaps they did all in the same field.

I shot quite a few chickens out of that old duck blind over the years. Not quite as fasinating of a bird when you can pass shoot them at will. But, now that those days are behind me they have become a bird of interest once again.

If you go into the KDWP office here in Topeka you will see my chicken mount proudly displayed on the counter. I loaned it to them for display since they didn't have one.
 
Chickens do have a pretty set pattern, with some scouting they are pretty easy to pass shoot. Weather does play a roll when and where they are going to be.

But if you have a place where they are holding for point long enough for you to get in shooting range, it is an awesome spot. This time of year I have gotten them pointed but as I walk in on point they are blowing out way before I get in range.

I don't pass shoot them any more. They are not my favorite bird to eat.
But a late season Prairie Chickens shot over point, is about the pinnacle of pointing dog work in KS.
 
Chickens do have a pretty set pattern, with some scouting they are pretty easy to pass shoot. Weather does play a roll when and where they are going to be.

..................I don't pass shoot them any more. They are not my favorite bird to eat.But a late season Prairie Chickens shot over point, is about the pinnacle of pointing dog work in KS.


All the ones Ive taken have been later in the year and all but a couple have been over point. Ive never hunted the early season but maybe this year I'll give it a try. The couple that werent over point were kind of over them as the dog pointed the flock, the flock took off, then as I walked closer to where the main flock got up one of the stragglers got up and I shot it. So not sure if that counts. Havent connected yet this year but Ive only tried to do so only two times so far on what I would call 4 different hunts. Found birds in every field I thought would hold chickens but the one I was blanked in last weekend. Sometimes my energy level and the biggest limiting factor is the dogs energy level in covering the ground. Need it to be cool enough so the setter doesnt over heat.

Ive found a couple old time recipes and thought they were pretty good to eat. The family loved them as well. Required a bit of time to prepare but turned out well. I also let the breast sit on ice in the fridge for a week or so to help age them and draw a lot of the blood out. By the time Im done with that they are about as pink as a pheasant breast after a pheasant has been shot.


Ive always found that after a small covey/flock of them get up there are almost always 2-3 (Im assuming juvenile) birds that will stay behind and dont fly right away. Those are the ones I will normally get the typical point, flush and shot on. Last Saturday the 2-3 situations where I had that happen it all didnt come together right. The dog learning to control itself with all the scent is sometimes the hardest part. Ive got a problem sometimes with her running around like crazy when the flock takes off and not realizing there are 2-3 more still on the ground and locating them. For some reason I think they put off a much stronger scent when they are bunched up than pheasants or quail as my dogs have always winded them much further away typically (or this could be a result of the type of terrain you find them in) and they always go crazy after the flock takes off. Not sure if you've had the same experience.

Gonna give it a whirl again a time or two next weekend.


I'll have to do some more reading on this subject and Im hoping my buddy can connect me with one of the people at K-State who does some banding of the birds in the spring. Im hoping I may get to volunteer but we'll see if it pans out. Ive got a fascination with the bird and also love the challenge. Figure while I am still able I'll chase them all I can. Theres plenty around where the habitat is in place. The past 2-3 years I always find more of them than I do pheasants. If people would manage their pastures correctly (keep the trees out and in control) they'd be even more plentiful than they are.
 
how do YOU know where I was anyways....was supposed to be a secret:eek:


Im an information hound, I probably missed my calling and should have been an intelligence analyst or a detective. Id probably scare you if I told you the Wiha parcels you were at too. One was pretty easy to figure out. Go a little further west next time. ;)
 
I have had some success in the early season. I really have not hunted them much during the regular season. Always to busy going after quail.

My dogs tend to point them at pretty long distances. In that type of cover scent should travel pretty well. The dogs also learn pretty quick that they have to stand off PC or they will flush.
 
I gotta stop posting pics...:eek: maybe you'll know where to find my bleached bones then if I have a heart attack or I'm stuck in the muck somewhere then...my girlfriend is always worried about something happening to me since I'm always alone....usually I give her maps of the areas I hunt out of state so she has an idea if something were to happen...in Kansas its just not possible since I never know where I'm going to be hunting till I get there...and then of course I don't ever have cell signal either.... what you may have NOT know is that 50% of the spots I took pics at were places I didn't even hunt....just for that reason. I'm thinking of heading further to the west next week anyway just for something new.
 
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I got one the end of Colorado's season. Here not only are they hard birds to hunt ie.. getting in range they are just plain hard to find even in the game units we are allowed to hunt them. I got two big males pointed in a yucca field, should have had both but got the one and consider him the biggest trophy I have ever got out hunting. He's with the taxidermy man now. I'll try and walk a few areas the last day while out for pheasant just because they are cool birds.

If any of you boys from Kansas ever want to chase them me and the dog would love to join you next season. In trade would take you out for several days of hard core fly fishing all tackle inclusive (except waders)
 
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