Pigeons or live birds
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copheasanthunter
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you should be able to find some pigeons under overpasses, just go at night with a flashlight, shine it into their eyes and I use a fishing landing net on a long pole. Helps if you have an extra hand to help.
What I do down in Colorado Springs area is take the pigeons up to the National Forest and we shoot them there. Either by using launchers, planting them or by having someone throw them and shoot them.
National Forest's and BLM are managed differently than SWA's when it comes to pigeons.
Pigeons are actually considered "feral" and not governed by the fish and game folks. Now if it is band tailed pigeons that is different, however just plain ole commoners/pigeons found in the city, they are rats with wings.
Just my .02cts...
Greg
National Forest's and BLM are managed differently than SWA's when it comes to pigeons.
Pigeons are actually considered "feral" and not governed by the fish and game folks. Now if it is band tailed pigeons that is different, however just plain ole commoners/pigeons found in the city, they are rats with wings.
Just my .02cts...
Greg
May want to check regs before releasing pigeons. Since they are considered a nuisance species fish and game may frown on releasing them where they once were not. The release of game species is different. I don't know exact rule and how hard they enforce but may be good to know for sure incase a PETA sympathizer on a hike sees you and makes a call. On private land I would not even give it a second thought.
The last time I checked pigeons do not fall into any category. I am sorry, however PETA can kiss my you know what
Common pigeons are not considered a "game" animal. Pigeons are everywhere....
Greg
Like I said check the regs. I know for a fact you are not allowed to release pigeons on state park lands, ask me how I know
I didn't say state park lands, I said National Forest or BLM, they are managed by people totally different. Park lands are of course managed by the DOW guys.
From Chapter 8 DOW reg for FT and training of hunting dogs, "2. An annual dog training permit, valid for the calendar year, must be obtained by any individual or group of 9 or fewer people to release and shoot privately-owned game birds during training on Division properties where such release is authorized in Chapter 9 of these regulations. At least one of the named permitees must be present during such training activities. No permit is required for individual dog training by nine or fewer people who are not releasing privately- owned game birds during training."
So when you are using "common pigeons" on National Forest or BLM lands, you can do so without anything from DOW.
And you can use live birds on state parks with a special activities permit.
But again, this is not on a state park. I am talking about NATIONAL FOREST LAND or BLM.
Greg
I didn't say state park lands, I said National Forest or BLM, they are managed by people totally different. Park lands are of course managed by the DOW guys.
From Chapter 8 DOW reg for FT and training of hunting dogs, "2. An annual dog training permit, valid for the calendar year, must be obtained by any individual or group of 9 or fewer people to release and shoot privately-owned game birds during training on Division properties where such release is authorized in Chapter 9 of these regulations. At least one of the named permitees must be present during such training activities. No permit is required for individual dog training by nine or fewer people who are not releasing privately- owned game birds during training."
So when you are using "common pigeons" on National Forest or BLM lands, you can do so without anything from DOW.
And you can use live birds on state parks with a special activities permit.
But again, this is not on a state park. I am talking about NATIONAL FOREST LAND or BLM.
Greg
I would just like to add that I am merely trying to state that I realize you are just trying to help, however I would not post something on here to help a fellow hunter if I had not done my research or I did not know what I was talking about.
I find that this place has people who are walking and talking google search engines (I would say encyclopedias, however no one uses those anymore).
Please do not take offense to my post, although I am a bit of a smart ass sometimes. I guess it is the Texan in me
Greg
I wonder if the original poster is even still reading this. Anyway, I have said permit and at last check it covered banner lakes and cobb lake. You'll have to show me where it covers federal lands in a state wildlife management brochure when we get together to train down at Dale and Brenda's. Next time I'll just keep my mouth shut. My bad. God bless Texas.
Rob Walker.
Rob Walker.
HighTailSetters
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That's why I use homers
That's why I use homers
The pigeons I have I keep in a coop in my backyard and you can call them "homers", since I have released them and they have come back. Bottom line is, like Mr. Walker said, just call your local DOW to clarify or go down there and talk to an officer, not a volunteer and get it in writing.
Greg