Pheasant/ Quail forever

Upland4Ever

Upland4Ever

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So over the years upland hunting has gone down, and in Louisiana it's really gone down. I was talking with my Grandpa that livesdown there, he has 90 arces must of it is natural wild grass and some corn and beans. Now is there any chance that pheasants could survive in Louisiana? And do you think Pheasant/Quail forever would help with getting it off the ground? We are just trying to keep habitat growning and going. Because as a upland hunter it's what we do.
 
Can't see it as a goood bet, nor much organizational lucre spent trying.

Might release a few quail to shoot up or developing for woodcock might be the best idea, depending upon location and habitat in the area.
 
They've got pheasants in Mexico so LA wouldn't be out of the question. There must be other issues because there are 10000s of acres of rough country along the TX coast that has quail and would seem to be ok for pheasants but isn't for some reason (I'm certain they have tried).
 
I suppose survive or prosper would be the question.
Takes more than a postage stamp of habitat for any gamebird...if habitat with food is there enough, if locals let birds be enough and if luck falls the bird's way enough....then maybe, but I doubt Louisiana has it to be a pheasant state.
Otherwise, tough sledding and I would want my PF money headed toward a hill where the sled builds up a bit of speed rather than scoots for a foot or two.
Woodcock are funneled to Louisiana and the little bogsucker can always use some help...one way in Louisiana may be thru increased and better winter habitat and another thru considering individual harvests at that funnel's end.
Upland birds as a decription covers far more than the pheasant.
 
I have been stationed in LA at Ft Polk, I have also been assigned to Ft Hood Texas (only three hours from Polk). I have hunted in both states. Both had descent pops of quail and what I would call good pops of woodcock, when I was there in the early 90ies. I think heat and humidity would probably be the reason for no success for pheseant in the coastal areas of Texas or for any range of habitat in Louisiana. Quail definately have a shot at a come back if a giant list (one that is too large to mention in passing here) of things are taken care of. By the time I left the region in 2004 I'd say the only quail I saw "near" the coast of Texas with any frequency were Scaled Quail.

If I were to want to "upland hunt" in Louisiana again I would stick with woodcock and add wilson's snipe to the bag. Snipe inhabit the same types of habitat as woodcock are a very sporty bird to shoot and don't seem to have suffered the decline as many other game birds. Heck I can put up 40 or 50 snipe in about two hours at a hard hit duck hunting area here in Colorado without getting within 50 yds of the water. I remember much stronger populations in Central Texas and Louisiana. They also hold for a point.


Have a Good 'Urn,
bones
 
I read where some pen raised pheasants and some trapped wild California pheasants where released in SW Louisiana and did OK.

Does Louisiana have a open wild pheasant hunting season?
 
OldDublin said:
I suppose survive or prosper would be the question.
Takes more than a postage stamp of habitat for any gamebird...if habitat with food is there enough, if locals let birds be enough and if luck falls the bird's way enough....then maybe, but I doubt Louisiana has it to be a pheasant state.
Otherwise, tough sledding and I would want my PF money headed toward a hill where the sled builds up a bit of speed rather than scoots for a foot or two.
Woodcock are funneled to Louisiana and the little bogsucker can always use some help...one way in Louisiana may be thru increased and better winter habitat and another thru considering individual harvests at that funnel's end.
Upland birds as a decription covers far more than the pheasant.
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As an upland hunter you should'nt be worried about just your hunting spots. Should take pride in trying to help everywhere you can.
 
Upland4Ever said:
As an upland hunter you should'nt be worried about just your hunting spots. Should take pride in trying to help everywhere you can.
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What the Hell are you talking about? Hunting spots? Taking Pride?
I've been upland birdhunting since '64' in many states and for many species. I've sat in meetings and at roundtable discussions, attended study presentations, kept abreast of issues across the US concerning upland birds especially, contributing where I could and commenting where I could not.
Before you make some stupid comment about what I should do, learn a bit.

You asked some questions. I, for one, answered with my opinion.
The fact that it was not what you wanted to hear is tough...the truth often is.
It's also a fact that effort would be best spent with a native specie of moderate present strength such as the woodcock in Louisiana rather than expending effort and energy, both being often in short supply, trying to institute your favorite bird.
It would hardly be wise to try for ruffed grouse populations in Kansas so....anyone with hog sense will move on to what has a spitting chance of working.
Pheasant do best in areas of wide spread non-fragmented cover, with food.
You think Louisiana can supply enough pheasant habitat, then I think you need to wipe the pheasant feathers from your eyes and look again.

No eff'in gamebird trumps another for me.....my personal choices relate to opportunity and personal tradition....nothing more.
I envy those who have sharptails out their back door or chukars up the hill or, as was mentioned, snipe in the wetlands.

You lad, should work toward something other than telling me what I should do as an upland hunter.
You truthfully sound like those annoying born-again folks who push their choice on others in the Kroger parking lot or the one-time drunks and smokers who NOW, have seen the light.
Spare me your upland pap.
 
OldDublin said:
What the Hell are you talking about? Hunting spots? Taking Pride?
I've been upland birdhunting since '64' in many states and for many species. I've sat in meetings and at roundtable discussions, attended study presentations, kept abreast of issues across the US concerning upland birds especially, contributing where I could and commenting where I could not.
Before you make some stupid comment about what I should do, learn a bit.

You asked some questions. I, for one, answered with my opinion.
The fact that it was not what you wanted to hear is tough...the truth often is.
It's also a fact that effort would be best spent with a native specie of moderate present strength such as the woodcock in Louisiana rather than expending effort and energy, both being often in short supply, trying to institute your favorite bird.
It would hardly be wise to try for ruffed grouse populations in Kansas so....anyone with hog sense will move on to what has a spitting chance of working.
Pheasant do best in areas of wide spread non-fragmented cover, with food.
You think Louisiana can supply enough pheasant habitat, then I think you need to wipe the pheasant feathers from your eyes and look again.

No eff'in gamebird trumps another for me.....my personal choices relate to opportunity and personal tradition....nothing more.
I envy those who have sharptails out their back door or chukars up the hill or, as was mentioned, snipe in the wetlands.

You lad, should work toward something other than telling me what I should do as an upland hunter.
You truthfully sound like those annoying born-again folks who push their choice on others in the Kroger parking lot or the one-time drunks and smokers who NOW, have seen the light.
Spare me your upland pap.
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Well one bird hunters don't talk to bird hunters like that, two all you care about is where you hunt, and three Louisiana is having a hard time right now with quail hunting. So know it be a little more respectful.
 
OldDublin said:
What the Hell are you talking about? Hunting spots? Taking Pride?
I've been upland birdhunting since '64' in many states and for many species. I've sat in meetings and at roundtable discussions, attended study presentations, kept abreast of issues across the US concerning upland birds especially, contributing where I could and commenting where I could not.
Before you make some stupid comment about what I should do, learn a bit.

You asked some questions. I, for one, answered with my opinion.
The fact that it was not what you wanted to hear is tough...the truth often is.
It's also a fact that effort would be best spent with a native specie of moderate present strength such as the woodcock in Louisiana rather than expending effort and energy, both being often in short supply, trying to institute your favorite bird.
It would hardly be wise to try for ruffed grouse populations in Kansas so....anyone with hog sense will move on to what has a spitting chance of working.
Pheasant do best in areas of wide spread non-fragmented cover, with food.
You think Louisiana can supply enough pheasant habitat, then I think you need to wipe the pheasant feathers from your eyes and look again.

No eff'in gamebird trumps another for me.....my personal choices relate to opportunity and personal tradition....nothing more.
I envy those who have sharptails out their back door or chukars up the hill or, as was mentioned, snipe in the wetlands.

You lad, should work toward something other than telling me what I should do as an upland hunter.
You truthfully sound like those annoying born-again folks who push their choice on others in the Kroger parking lot or the one-time drunks and smokers who NOW, have seen the light.
Spare me your upland pap.
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I was asking for help not downing others states. I have great bird hunting here to in Nebraska but I try to help where I can.
 
OldDublin said:
What the Hell are you talking about? Hunting spots? Taking Pride?
I've been upland birdhunting since '64' in many states and for many species. I've sat in meetings and at roundtable discussions, attended study presentations, kept abreast of issues across the US concerning upland birds especially, contributing where I could and commenting where I could not.
Before you make some stupid comment about what I should do, learn a bit.

You asked some questions. I, for one, answered with my opinion.
The fact that it was not what you wanted to hear is tough...the truth often is.
It's also a fact that effort would be best spent with a native specie of moderate present strength such as the woodcock in Louisiana rather than expending effort and energy, both being often in short supply, trying to institute your favorite bird.
It would hardly be wise to try for ruffed grouse populations in Kansas so....anyone with hog sense will move on to what has a spitting chance of working.
Pheasant do best in areas of wide spread non-fragmented cover, with food.
You think Louisiana can supply enough pheasant habitat, then I think you need to wipe the pheasant feathers from your eyes and look again.

No eff'in gamebird trumps another for me.....my personal choices relate to opportunity and personal tradition....nothing more.
I envy those who have sharptails out their back door or chukars up the hill or, as was mentioned, snipe in the wetlands.

You lad, should work toward something other than telling me what I should do as an upland hunter.
You truthfully sound like those annoying born-again folks who push their choice on others in the Kroger parking lot or the one-time drunks and smokers who NOW, have seen the light.
Spare me your upland pap.
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I would like to get back the hunting Grouse, but living near Omaha makes it hard to do. Have you grouse hunted in Nebraska?
 
Birdhunters come in all manner of raimnet...some they earn and some folks appear to adopt to try and fit in.
Respect, laddybuck is earned and never given by any activity alone...or the wearing of blaze orange.
Carrying a scattergun afield after gamebirds is not a guaranteed ticket to a ride, neither is it a Lifestyle...most often it is a Life.

I speak to anyone in the manner to which I am spoken.
You need a bit of maturity coupled with some basic knowledge of gamebirds.
With a good dose of the last you would discover multiple areas are facing equal issues to Louisiana and in many cases, much worse.

Grow up.
Admit your mistakes and learn from them.
 
Upland4Ever said:
I was asking for help not downing others states. I have great bird hunting here to in Nebraska but I try to help where I can.
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Don't eff'in this or hell that to me show some respect, I was asking for help not a KNOW IT ALL. Thanks have a great bird season. Contact me again when you have some help or advice, not when you have a temper.
 
As far as your last two, or now three, posts...you got what you asked for, perhaps not what you wanted.
You obviously find that a difficult burden to bear.

The only game I have hunted in Nebraska is turkey....driving thru the hills and speaking to the Sandhillers I would infer that Nebraska offers adventure aplenty.

I'll leave your posts from now on to those who give answers more palatable to you.
Good luck....and seek professional help as the need arises.
 
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WoooWEEEE! This forum has some hot spots TOOONIGHT! The "J" man's back in action on a SD thread, wolves are on the prowl, and Upland4 is ruffling feathers. LOL

Folks, it seems UPH has an all out Hootenanny goin' down.:D Action is HOT!

Obviously I'm having some fun here. I think we may need to cool off a bit fellas. Maybe leave it alone for a day or two and let things settle:):cheers:
 
OldDublin said:
Birdhunters come in all manner of raimnet...some they earn and some folks appear to adopt to try and fit in.
Respect, laddybuck is earned and never given by any activity alone...or the wearing of blaze orange.
Carrying a scattergun afield after gamebirds is not a guaranteed ticket to a ride, neither is it a Lifestyle...most often it is a Life.

I speak to anyone in the manner to which I am spoken.
You need a bit of maturity coupled with some basic knowledge of gamebirds.
With a good dose of the last you would discover multiple areas are facing equal issues to Louisiana and in many cases, much worse.

Grow up.
Admit your mistakes and learn from them.
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I was asking for adivce, and second my father has been training bird dogs and hunting and have thought me and my brothers well. And second I earned my blaze at six years old, and my Combat Medal at nineteen Semper Fi and be a good person to society. So before you tell someone to earn something know who your speaking to first.
 
1pheas4 said:
... I think we may need to cool off a bit fellas. Maybe leave it alone for a day or two and let things settle:):cheers:
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Good idea...I'm content with an honest reading of the previous posts, if they remain unaltered, and what drove them.
As well, the Ignore feature is in use.
 
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Upland4Ever said:
So over the years upland hunting has gone down, and in Louisiana it's really gone down. I was talking with my Grandpa that livesdown there, he has 90 arces must of it is natural wild grass and some corn and beans. Now is there any chance that pheasants could survive in Louisiana? And do you think Pheasant/Quail forever would help with getting it off the ground? We are just trying to keep habitat growning and going. Because as a upland hunter it's what we do.
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This discussion got a bit heated, and I don't want to get involved in any of that.

My advice is simple... Ask PF/QF if they have any interest in getting your plan off the ground.:thumbsup: It's difficult for any of us to say (while hunting and pecking on our keyboards) whether or not your family's land and the surrounding acres could support a surviving/thriving population of anything.

The only thing I remember about Louisiana is Bourbon St:cheers:, so I will not even offer a guess as to what the PF/QF response may be regarding yoru proposal.
 
Anyone that wants to promote gamebirds anywhere, should be allowed to do it. And has my thumbs up.:):thumbsup:
 
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