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here are the same birds but with the right dogs, divot and torrey and showing off my new aya. had a great day, ya shoulda been there
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this is divot on a dove hunt this fall, he doesn't seem to mind the feathers much
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i bought it in sept., shot a few dove, a case of clays and now am at about 46 pheasants. love the gun so far. for lots of years i have shot doubles and mostly small gauges. this gun came from cabela's and they were competitive. this is a box lock with the polished receiver and heavily engraved. listed at $4000. you can save about $500 with the simpler case hardened rec. the side lock while looking really nice adds a couple of thousand to the gun. i think in the price range, aya is tops. for another few thousands you might get a better one, it's like the quail and pheasants care anyway. the gun has double triggers and if you have never used them and could get them through your head, you would never use anything else. i like the english stock which has a lop of 14 3/4 and 29" barrels choked mod. and imp. the reasons for these configurations are that they balance better in the smaller gauges and the alignment with you eye is at it's best. i tried all the auction places i know and likewise, the internet to find a nice used one and had no luck. now, 20 ga. vs the 28 ga. some facts, and some of them don't mean at lot but still facts. 20 ga. shell are about 1/3 cheaper, i roll my own so they are the same price. 3" shells in the 20 ga. are just about a waste and can't shoot them in the 28 ga. the 28 ga. is about 4 oz. lighter, both guns in pheasant loads can shoot 1 oz. of shot. the real plus for me beside liking the sound of the 28 ga. is that as i have stated on some other post is i can load a shell at 7/8 oz. of shot, that's about 30 pellets less than 1 oz. i shoot mostly 7.5's and can shoot them at just over 1500 fps. and you can't come close to that with the 20 ga. this means that is you are shooting the standard 12 ga. 1 1/4 oz #6 shot, i have more pellets, better pattern and slightly more energy. energy comes from either speed or mass, i get it from speed. the 28 ga. is a better patterning gun than the 20 ga., the best patterns come out of the 20 ga at about 3/4 oz. has something to do with the barrel diameter and how many pellets that it can handle. mostly my image is that you need a double gun, a fireplace, a bird dog and a good book, maybe like " the shootinest gent'man" by buckingham, "grouse feathers" by spiller, one of my very favorites is "my favorite shooting box' by frank forester and if you ever wanted to know just how many birds a man can kill while being part of the landed gentre, try "colonel hawker's shooting diaries" edited by eric parker. anyway ya ought to be out there with something and having a great time. to get this gun i sold a spectacular 20 ga. n i d ithaca and the same in a l.c. smith. still have a couple of each though. good luck
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i bought it in sept., shot a few dove, a case of clays and now am at about 46 pheasants. love the gun so far. for lots of years i have shot doubles and mostly small gauges. this gun came from cabela's and they were competitive. this is a box lock with the polished receiver and heavily engraved. listed at $4000. you can save about $500 with the simpler case hardened rec. the side lock while looking really nice adds a couple of thousand to the gun. i think in the price range, aya is tops. for another few thousands you might get a better one, it's like the quail and pheasants care anyway. the gun has double triggers and if you have never used them and could get them through your head, you would never use anything else. i like the english stock which has a lop of 14 3/4 and 29" barrels choked mod. and imp. the reasons for these configurations are that they balance better in the smaller gauges and the alignment with you eye is at it's best. i tried all the auction places i know and likewise, the internet to find a nice used one and had no luck. now, 20 ga. vs the 28 ga. some facts, and some of them don't mean at lot but still facts. 20 ga. shell are about 1/3 cheaper, i roll my own so they are the same price. 3" shells in the 20 ga. are just about a waste and can't shoot them in the 28 ga. the 28 ga. is about 4 oz. lighter, both guns in pheasant loads can shoot 1 oz. of shot. the real plus for me beside liking the sound of the 28 ga. is that as i have stated on some other post is i can load a shell at 7/8 oz. of shot, that's about 30 pellets less than 1 oz. i shoot mostly 7.5's and can shoot them at just over 1500 fps. and you can't come close to that with the 20 ga. this means that is you are shooting the standard 12 ga. 1 1/4 oz #6 shot, i have more pellets, better pattern and slightly more energy. energy comes from either speed or mass, i get it from speed. the 28 ga. is a better patterning gun than the 20 ga., the best patterns come out of the 20 ga at about 3/4 oz. has something to do with the barrel diameter and how many pellets that it can handle. mostly my image is that you need a double gun, a fireplace, a bird dog and a good book, maybe like " the shootinest gent'man" by buckingham, "grouse feathers" by spiller, one of my very favorites is "my favorite shooting box' by frank forester and if you ever wanted to know just how many birds a man can kill while being part of the landed gentre, try "colonel hawker's shooting diaries" edited by eric parker. anyway ya ought to be out there with something and having a great time. to get this gun i sold a spectacular 20 ga. n i d ithaca and the same in a l.c. smith. still have a couple of each though. good luck
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I just don't think I could get to like the double triggers I have shyed away from that numerous times I would like it for a safe queen though it is cool looking
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through your head
i have a lot of experience with both and selectors suck. if you were in england, you couldn't give a gun with a selector away and in this country it is just about the opposite, at least in our day and age. one thing you can't do nor will ever be able to do is to use the selector during the time of flush or otherwise in a hurry. your brain, thumb and finger just are not wired that way. with the double trigger, the thumb is removed from the brain and if ljust has to deal with the finger. for example, walking in on a point, often my finger will be on the left or more closed barrel just in case the bird has run or further away, if the bird flushes close, i just move my finger forward, you can't switch in that length of time, again if i miss judge the distance and need the closed barrel, i just move my finger back, again you can't do that. frequently while the bird is in flight i have been able to move my finger back in forth depend how i read the distance, with a selector, you could never do that either. with two triggers you also get better trigger pulls and if one barrel doesn't fire for whatever, your gun is not useless till you re-cock it and then the bird is someplace else, the english got this one right. none of this is a really big deal but the utility of the double triggers is greater than that of the selector, again, the pheasants don't really care. the kid with the old h&r break action didn't give a hoot, he was on cloud nine with what he had
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i have a lot of experience with both and selectors suck. if you were in england, you couldn't give a gun with a selector away and in this country it is just about the opposite, at least in our day and age. one thing you can't do nor will ever be able to do is to use the selector during the time of flush or otherwise in a hurry. your brain, thumb and finger just are not wired that way. with the double trigger, the thumb is removed from the brain and if ljust has to deal with the finger. for example, walking in on a point, often my finger will be on the left or more closed barrel just in case the bird has run or further away, if the bird flushes close, i just move my finger forward, you can't switch in that length of time, again if i miss judge the distance and need the closed barrel, i just move my finger back, again you can't do that. frequently while the bird is in flight i have been able to move my finger back in forth depend how i read the distance, with a selector, you could never do that either. with two triggers you also get better trigger pulls and if one barrel doesn't fire for whatever, your gun is not useless till you re-cock it and then the bird is someplace else, the english got this one right. none of this is a really big deal but the utility of the double triggers is greater than that of the selector, again, the pheasants don't really care. the kid with the old h&r break action didn't give a hoot, he was on cloud nine with what he had
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I don't remember the last time I used the selector. On a bird that has run out a bit, I generally fire the open barrel and then follow up with the tight one, assuming the bird is still in the air. About then another bird comes up close, and the gun is empty. 
Some day I am going to get a SxS, most likely with double triggers.
Got the Connecticut Shotguns catalog in the mail. Some of those guns cost as much as a new truck!
Some day I am going to get a SxS, most likely with double triggers.
Got the Connecticut Shotguns catalog in the mail. Some of those guns cost as much as a new truck!
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pastor john and me both got the catalog the other day too. me, i'm pretty active but john mostly just gets bugle for a mag. don't know where they got their list, possible gun dog. anyway, their cheapest is about $3500 i think, and they climb rapidly from there and they don't make many trucks over $100,000 either. most of my birds have been killed with the 20 ga. and about 80% of them with imp. cly. last year i did hunt with one of my lc smith 20 ga. mostly cause i was feeling sorry for it. i have been using the 28 ga. for about 10 years and they are also choked at imp cyl. and mod.. my goose gun, duck gun, mostly is my beretta o/u 28 ga. and yes, it has a selector and if you can see the ducks coming far enough away you can use it. home for the week, then i have a old, really old college friend coming from wash. state to shoot turkey and will use that same gun as my turkey gun. too cold to sit in the blind with my bow. i worked up some killer loads, spec. wad, buffer, and nickel shot and have a pretty sure pattern at forty yards but more often than not will shoot one well under 20. shot one last year with the 410 at about 16 ft.
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I don't remember the last time I used the selector. On a bird that has run out a bit, I generally fire the open barrel and then follow up with the tight one, assuming the bird is still in the air. About then another bird comes up close, and the gun is empty.
Some day I am going to get a SxS, most likely with double triggers.
Got the Connecticut Shotguns catalog in the mail. Some of those guns cost as much as a new truck!
pastor john and me both got the catalog the other day too. me, i'm pretty active but john mostly just gets bugle for a mag. don't know where they got their list, possible gun dog. anyway, their cheapest is about $3500 i think, and they climb rapidly from there and they don't make many trucks over $100,000 either. most of my birds have been killed with the 20 ga. and about 80% of them with imp. cly. last year i did hunt with one of my lc smith 20 ga. mostly cause i was feeling sorry for it. i have been using the 28 ga. for about 10 years and they are also choked at imp cyl. and mod.. my goose gun, duck gun, mostly is my beretta o/u 28 ga. and yes, it has a selector and if you can see the ducks coming far enough away you can use it. home for the week, then i have a old, really old college friend coming from wash. state to shoot turkey and will use that same gun as my turkey gun. too cold to sit in the blind with my bow. i worked up some killer loads, spec. wad, buffer, and nickel shot and have a pretty sure pattern at forty yards but more often than not will shoot one well under 20. shot one last year with the 410 at about 16 ft.
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