There is a long term breeder in North Dakota, who raises Flat coats, and uses them on pheasants and waterfowl. He has several litters a year and and has since I think the 1950's. It's Wyndman-Wyndmanian Retrievers, Mr. Atkins, Ashby, North Dakota. 701-205-4070. Never let it be said that we can't get a guy a dog!