Ditch/Road Hunting. IMPORTANT-MUST READ

Bob Peters

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NOTE-satire and humor ahead

In Iowa and South Dakota it's legal to hunt ditches. Just because it's legal, doesn't mean it's right. "Hunting" birds in this manner, simply put, is unethical and dangerous. Regardless if you are 2 miles from a building or cattle herd, it's inherently assumed you would have no problems touching off a round at a rooster squatting in the ditch under farmer Johnson's mailbox. When your first two ground-pounds missed, you'd have no qualms taking it down to the plug as Rudy runs 'round the yard in front of the farm place. You sir, are a slob hunter. These guys walking ditches in the boonies, I suppose they'd have no issue spying a bird in the ditch, slipping the muzzle of a hand cannon out the window, shooting while perched behind the wheel. A lot of these guys don't have dogs and just want a bird for the crock pot, rules be damned. A flock of roosters over the fence having dinner? Arkansas those sons a' guns. If a hen gets in the way? Well, she'll eat too. Break one rule, break them all.

And the hunter who has a dog, surely he'll be walking a prairie more picturesque than any Redlin or Kouba? No, not all. There's a special breed of hunter, so bloodthirsty and wanton as to do anything, take any risk just to kill that damn rooster. He will go so far as to let the dog out to hunt that lonely country road. Even in a county where the pop. density is 1 person per square mile, this is a no no. On ground flat as a pancake, where the human eye can see 3 miles before the earth's curvature blocks vision, that dog is not likely to survive many days like this. You see, any moment that old farm truck will come ripping down that rutted up road, you know the one, more corrugated than great-granny's washboard. It'll jitter your teeth out if you go more than 9 mph, but that won't slow some people down.

And lastly, we all know who these people are. Mostly guys from the city or out-of-towners. The easy answer here, is to stop hunting rights-of-way and go find money public ground, there's plenty. What if it's a busy weekend, and the spots are covered up? Knock on doors, be polite, lots of times you'll get on with a 6-pack and hand shake. No luck? No problem. You tried. Come back on a weekday when it's not so busy. Oh, but you have a job M-F? Well, then you'll need to call your rich uncle and see if he'll buy you a section of CRP all your own. Not a very big ask. No rich uncle, deep pockets, or dad who farms a few sections. Not a hayseed who's lived in the country your whole life and have connections, we've come to the end of the gravel road, so to speak. You simply drive home, put the gun in the safe, and feel warm and fuzzy that you tried. Next year, maybe you don't buy a license. I've heard golf is fun. That pooch won't care. Instead you just take the old hound to a dog park in the city. They run around in a little fenced in area, sniffing other dogs' nether regions, fetching rubber toys. Dogs don't know any better. They'll be just as happy as a great retrieve on a rooster right?

Yes, I really look down my nose on these poor saps. Shooting from trucks, jumping out of vehicles guns loaded, rattling the windows while granny is sipping tea in her breakfast nook. The world is shrinking and hunting spots are tough to find. But what can be done? Those rich in land access can still hunt. The moneyed and well-to-do just slap down cash on the barrelhead at the blueblood Rooster Ritz Ranch. And that small percentage, very very small, who walk ditches after reading rules religiously, what with them? The ones who take distance from homes, heifers, hogbarns, and double them just to be on the safe side? Who put a dog down on a shoulder that sees .5 vehicles travel it a day, and has his head on a swivel and ears perked the entire time. Whose dog means more to him than most people? Well, we can't make exceptions for such a small amount. Lump those scant few in with all the poachers and transgressors who participate in this form of hunting that's a relic from days gone by. I've done it in the past and every time I think back I feel dirty. I'm penning a letter right now to Kristi. Yes I have her on speed dial, but I figure a more formal letter asking to ban hunting rights of way to be best course. And I'll send a letter to that less famous governor in Iowa too. This is a black eye for honest hunters, time to put an end to this monkey business once and for all.
 
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I take an annual trip to South Dakota every year BECAUSE I can hunt ditches! I live in Las Vegas, have no dog and limited time to hunt. I'll keep going back, being very thankful for the insight this state had in drawing hunters like me. By the way, I came one bird short of limiting out the three days I was there. Take that Bobby! lol

You uncouth, low-life heathen.


Seriously OP, I hope this is some kind of alcohol-induced rant or maybe it's a joke that is flying way over my head. But I think you have the ditch-hunter pegged completely wrong. I'm fine with the idea of you not wanting to hunt the ditch bank yourself, but it definitely doesn't give you the moral high ground because you walk on the other side of the fence.
 
You uncouth, low-life heathen.


Seriously OP, I hope this is some kind of alcohol-induced rant or maybe it's a joke that is flying way over my head. But I think you have the ditch-hunter pegged completely wrong. I'm fine with the idea of you not wanting to hunt the ditch bank yourself, but it definitely doesn't give you the moral high ground because you walk on the other side of the fence.

I was converted by Remy, Wind River, and Gim. They told me I'd be looked down on or the dog would be run over if I hunted ditches. I figured the over- the top embellishment and mention of having Governor Noem on speed dial would give a hint the post is tongue- in- cheek. 😜


See #9, #15, et al
 
Many of the behaviors and actions that you mention and are repulsed by are already illegal. As you yourself said "Break one rule, break them all".
How does making the right-of-way off limits to those who will follow the rules, correct the illegal actions of the rule breakers?
Excellent question.
 
@Bob- I'm glad to hear that your "rant" was hyperbole, it did sound out of character but I'm newer to the forum and wasn't sure.
All good hyperbole must have a seed of truth, you do bring up some good reasons to avoid hunting the ditches especially dog safety. I haven't sworn off hunting the roadways but I'm gonna be more cautious.
 
Limitless, any chance we can get an AI generated photo of Governor Walz joining Governor Noem for some ditch hunting in SD. All dogs beware in the creation of this memorable photo. And make sure that no pheasants are injured in this by the Power Lines running adjacent to the ditches.
I'm not sure I could resist creating something that would get me in trouble, somehow, by someone. Too many naughty ideas already swirling in my head.

I'll give it some time, to get those impulses under control, and then *maybe* have at it. I have to close my eyes and get to sleep anyway. Have to get up in 7 hours and drive 3 hours to battle those closed nosed (hunting Minnesota, not South Dakota) cattail parrots. ;)
 
I was converted by Remy, Wind River, and Gim. They told me I'd be looked down on or the dog would be run over if I hunted ditches. I figured the over- the top embellishment and mention of having Governor Noem on speed dial would give a hint the post is tongue- in- cheek. 😜


See #9, #15, et al

Yep, see, right over my head. But I’m tracking now.
 
In Iowa and South Dakota it's legal to hunt ditches. Full rules are in the reg. book. Just because it's legal, doesn't mean it's right. "Hunting" birds in this manner, simply put, is unethical and dangerous. Regardless if you are 2 miles from a building or cattle herd, it's inherently assumed you would have no problems touching off a round at a rooster squatting in the ditch under farmer Johnson's mailbox. Not only that, when your first two ground-pounds missed, you'd have no qualms taking it down to the plug as Rudy runs around the yard in front of the farm place. You sir, are a slob hunter. These guys walking ditches in the boonies, I suppose they'd have no issue spying a bird in the ditch, slipping the muzzle of a hand cannon out the window, shooting while perched behind the wheel. A lot of these guys don't have dogs and just want a bird for the crock pot, rules be damned. A flock of roosters over the fence having dinner? Arkansas those sons a' guns. If a hen gets in the way? Well, she'll eat too. Break one rule, break them all.

And the hunter who has a dog, surely he'll be walking a prairie more picturesque than any Terry Redlin or Les Kouba? No, not all. There's a special breed of hunter, so bloodthirsty and wanton as to do anything, take any risk just to kill that damn rooster. He will go so far as to let the dog out to hunt that lonely country road. Even in a far flung county of the pheasant belt where the population density is 1 person per square mile, this is a no no. On ground flat as a pancake, where the human eye can see 3 miles before the earth's curvature blocks vision, that dog is not likely to survive many days like this. You see, any moment that old farm truck will come ripping down that rutted up road, you know the one, more corrugated than great-granny's washboard. It'll jitter your teeth out if you go more than 9 mph, but that won't slow some people down.

And lastly, we all know who these people are. Mostly guys from the city or out-of-towners. The easy answer here, is to stop hunting rights-of-way and go find money public ground, there's plenty around. What if it's a busy weekend, and the spots are covered up? Knock on doors, be polite, see what happens, lots of times you'll find a spot with a 6-pack and a hand shake. What happens is everyone gives you a hard no? No problem. You tried your best. Come back on a weekday when it's not so busy. Oh, but you have a job M-F? Well, then you'll just need to call your rich uncle and see if he'll buy you a quarter section of farmland to convert to CRP. Not a very big ask. If you don't have a rich uncle, or deep pockets, or a dad who farms a few sections, if you haven't lived in the country your whole life and have no connections, we've come to a hard line at the end of the gravel road, so to speak. You simply drive home, put the gun in the safe, and feel warm and fuzzy that you tried. Next year, maybe you don't even buy a license at all. I've heard golf is fun. That pooch really won't care. Instead you just take the old hunting dog to a dog park in the city. They run around in a little fenced in area, sniffing other dogs' nether regions, and fetching store bought rubber toys. Dogs don't know any better. A toy makes them just as happy as a great retrieve on a wild bird right?

Yes, I really look down my nose on these poor saps. Shooting from trucks, jumping out of vehicles with loaded guns, rattling the windows while granny is sipping tea in her breakfast nook. Yes, the world is shrinking and hunting spots can be tough to find. But what can be done? Those rich in land access can still hunt. The moneyed and well-to-do can just slap down cash on the barrelhead at the blueblood Rooster Ritz Ranch. And that small percentage, very very small, who walk ditches after reading rules religiously, what with them? The ones who take distance from homes, heifers, hogbarns, and double them just to be on the safe side? Who put a dog down on a shoulder that sees .5 vehicles travel it a day, and has his head on a swivel and ears perked the entire time. Whose dog means more to him than most people? Well, we can't make exceptions for such a small amount. Lump those scant few in with all the poachers and transgressors who participate in this form of hunting that's a relic from days gone by. I've done it in the past and every time I think back I feel dirty. I'm penning a letter right now to Kristi. Yes I have her on speed dial, but I figure a more formal letter asking to ban hunting rights of way to be best course. And I'll send a letter to that less famous governor in Iowa too. This is a black eye for honest hunters, time to put an end to this monkey business once and for all.
It's low bagger.
 
Wait now. On a different thread there is a photo of you (BP) walking a ditch towards your dogs (I assume hanging out with your hunting partner).
 
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Years ago (and I mean like 35+ years!) we were hunting with a SD farm family. This was pre-CRP or maybe just when CRP was in its infancy. Anyways we were working a creek bottom and flushed a coyote. A couple of "cousins" to this family who were watching us from the road in an old pickup truck ... drove their truck into the field and chased the coyote. A guy in the back of the pickup bed was firing his gun at the running 'yote as the pickup gave chase. I believe shooting furbearers in SD from a vehicle was legal then (might still be), but not sure if the vehicle could be moving.

Later that day one of the guys we were hunting with told us that it was deer season and that is why the pickup was standing guard as we hunted pheasants. I chose not to ask if the same scenario would have unfolded if we had flushed a deer.
 
I saw the length of the OP and skipped down to the next posts and quickly decided Bob had a bit of time on his hands by the shear length and title of this thread. Must have been a slow day at work. Looking at the length, I think there must be books published with less content. Good to have traffic on the site. I am glad Bob uses this site to burn-off his time with nonsense...I am assuming that is pretty much what happened.

Add: Bob must mock the chances of a dog getting hit by a vehicle while hunting...I do truely hope that doesn't happen, but God forbid it would happen to him, we can rest assured that we will not hear it from him now.
 
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... And the hunter who has a dog, surely he'll be walking a prairie more picturesque than any Terry Redlin or Les Kouba? No, not all. There's a special breed of hunter, so bloodthirsty and wanton as to do anything, take any risk just to kill that damn rooster. He will go so far as to let the dog out to hunt that lonely country road. Even in a far flung county of the pheasant belt where the population density is 1 person per square mile, this is a no no. On ground flat as a pancake, where the human eye can see 3 miles before the earth's curvature blocks vision, that dog is not likely to survive many days like this. You see, any moment that old farm truck will come ripping down that rutted up road, you know the one, more corrugated than great-granny's washboard. It'll jitter your teeth out if you go more than 9 mph, but that won't slow some people down...
country road pheasants .jpg

you calling Terry Redlin is a slob hunter?
 
Add: Bob must mock the chances of a dog getting hit by a vehicle while hunting...I do truely hope that doesn't happen, but God forbid it would happen to him, we can rest assured that we will not hear it from him now.

Rem, the last thing I would ever do is mock an injury or worse to a dog, please don't assume things about others that aren't true. Dogs and hunters have many risks afield. Those risks should be mitigated and I myself always err on the side of caution in all things: roadways, gun safety, traps, fences etc.

What I was mocking are those who see certain legal types of hunting in a negative light or as inherently unsafe. Context is key here. Hunting the ditch of a four lane highway is not the same as hunting a dirt two-track road such as pictured above. It's often mentioned that hunter numbers are dwindling. If a new hunter or a high school kid has no ground to hunt other than a road ditch, and does it legally and safely should that be looked down upon?
 
Usually I have a cup of coffee, yesterday I had the whole pot! Definitely got me wired. Edited my post at the top to note satire. I will walk a good looking ditch when I can.
Thanks for the clarification. Most of us on thread completely missed your intent.

“People who don’t get satire are really cool!” -Mike aka NDPheasant
 
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