Copper Shot?

[A5 Sweet 16]

I will suggest that most hunters cannot not consistently hit a 50 yard crossing bird with any ammunition.

I'm one that can't. But I take them occasionally if it's a GOOD 50 yd shot. Not at all a straightaway, no nasty cover, etc. And I'll probably miss most of them, but at least I know my shells are sufficient. It'd be nice to have an excuse, but it's strangely comforting knowing I'm the problem & not my gun or shells.

 

[remy3424]

I will suggest that most hunters cannot not consistently hit a 50 yard crossing bird with any ammunition.

I think A5 is the only one with much of a chance on 50 yard crossers, sporting that full choke tube and an autoloader. Maybe if BB were here, he could make that shot and then shoot it again before it is on the deck...just to make sure.
I find pheasants that are much closer to me (than 50 yards) are much easier for me to hit, but I am not using a full choke either. I will guess AT LEAST 80% of the birds I shoot flush within 20 yards of me. Thus the IC tube I use...and having a pointer. Yah, I like the lay-ups. Things vary so much from the habitat, to what type of dog you use, to the shells you use (lead or non-tox), to the ability of the hunter.

 

[A5 Sweet 16]

I think A5 is the only one with much of a chance on 50 yard crossers, sporting that full choke tube and an autoloader. Maybe if BB were here, he could make that shot and then shoot it again before it is on the deck...just to make sure.

Me? No. But BB could do what you suggest. Easy.

 

[Bob Peters]

I've heard tales of the old days up on the high Canadian where the crackshots could make a hit many times at that distance. They used old time Sweet 16s. But not those with the inferior Jap barrels, the ones handcrafted in Belgium.

 

[A5 Sweet 16]

I've heard tales of the old days up on the high Canadian where the crackshots could make a hit many times at that distance. They used old time Sweet 16s. But not those with the inferior Jap barrels, the ones handcrafted in Belgium.

Exactly! Barrels crafted by some Belgian, sipping (chugging, more likely) a Stella Artois at the lathe, were much straighter, smoother, prettier, & more accurately choked than those produced by Japanese technology, well known to be inferior, especially in the 80s & 90s.