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highbrass16

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Headed back out this Friday-Sunday. Hunting private ground East of Hill City. Temps in the 40s and 50s. Have you fortunate to hunt alot been finding the birds in the wheat or milo stubble at these temps or mainly in the cover? Appreciate any suggestions.
 
Back in December we went out that way. We did find pheasants in tall wheat stubble. Its worth a look.

The birds were running, and the only way we got any of them was letting the dog get well out and pin them. Some flushed wild, but some held for us to get there.
 
I don't qualify as "one who goes often" (I've been out just three times this season). However, on the two hunts I participated in last week our party flushed roosters from the following cover:

Milo stubble adjacent to weeds but across the road from wheat stubble; grassy cover along a hedgerow; grassy cover in a pasture waterway; thick buckbrush in a pasture draw.

The son of a guns could be about anywhere. Suggest you work whatever cover looks good to you at the moment. Your guess is as good as anybody else's.
 
We've got a lot of thick wheat stubble and crp. We hunted some milo stubble on opening weekend and it didn't hold many birds. Wasn't sure if the limited amount of cold weather had them bunched up or if they were scattered all over. Probably be similar to the opener. Any advice is appreciated.
 
CloseRange says it pretty good-

think of it as- they need to go out and eat early- lots of times they go back out around noon- then again late in the day- if you suspect they are around but can't find them it's not a bad idea to go over the ground a couple hours later-

agree with SetterNut- some pointing dogs open up and succeed at pinning one quite a ways out- you've got to accept that some won't hold- but

a bit past noon today

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My buddy retiredguy holds to the belief that roosters this time of year bunch up simply because of the circadian, or daylight hours, cycle that provokes their hormonal breeding urge.

He theorizes, in other words, that the breeding urge in pheasants is triggered not by cold weather but by wintertime sunlight hours. I never gave this relationship any thought before he voiced his opinion, but now the more I think about it the notion does seem reasonable.

After all, we are moving into late January now. Historically this is the time of year when late-season hunters driving county roads often come across large groups of pheasant roosters and hens. The birds congregate in big flocks and, well, we don't have to watch them through binoculars to know what happens when roosters and hens get together.

Due to this winter's warmer temperatures, retiredguy's "circadian cycle trumps cold weather" theory is difficult to test, and it's because except for areas and pockets where populations are normal the pheasant numbers in Kansas are generally down statewide.

It could be that the only luck you have is to flush two or three roosters from one spot. And I hope you do. But that small group might be the only breeding roosters in the localized area where you're hunting.

Might as well shoot one of 'em anyway; fried up he'll taste just as good.
 
I believe your buddy retiredguy is right. The old farmer we hunt on talks about how good a winter they are having and then rags me for all the birds we left after opening weekend. He says he is seeing big bunches of roosters. I fish for info from these guys that have lived and farmed in this area all their lives about the natural tendencies of pheasants but they don't pay them much attention. They just "see" em here or "see" em there. I have tried to figure them out for the past 40 years but don't seem to gain alot of ground. Maybe thats the attraction!
 
Retired Guy

[FONLLSome more thoughts: Thesew large groups of pheasants require different tactics because their collective intelligence is magnified . Proceed quietly and do not yell at your dog. Car doors must be eased shut. If you start flushing hens, be ready, there's likely to be one rooster present. He's the one who whipped all the roosters you'll hopefully find bunched elsewhere. These bunches are best drygulched in heavy cover. It's easier to do this when it's cold and windy. Early and late are the best times, so keep those tired bones going. Don't head for the beer too soon, ahd by all means hunt that last field
 
Retired Guy- pretty good words there-

not sure what was going on- truck drives by and goes out into a field for a bit then leaves- shortly after 2 pickups stop- let some hunters out and drive around to an end- as I was going to go I watched thru binoculars- some shooting-

seems to be a group of pheasants are in the air and sailing-
hum- they light

ok Britt's lets go

quite enjoyable short hunt- seems they were loosely scattered maybe looking to group up

heading up to Stockton next weekend- like to find out about water, different areas, and if any birds up there
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I hunted south and west of Stockton last week for 3 days. Its getting really dry as all the snow has been gone now. The dogs had some trouble smelling as many points no birds then lose the trail. Two weeks ago this did not happen they could follow them until they held. We found them scattered and did end up with a few but as always you had to work for them hard. No real pattern for us just a few here and a few there. Did see alot of other hunters but did not here alot of shooting. Alot of people just driving around.

Zeepo
 
Zeepo- was sort of hoping for some water up there-
I don't figure to find many birds- but me and the Britt's need a little different country- can't remember ever being up there- thanks for the info

will be looking for some big fields and letting the Britt's roll


I have another reason for making the trip-
 
Zeepo- was sort of hoping for some water up there-
I don't figure to find many birds- but me and the Britt's need a little different country- can't remember ever being up there- thanks for the info

will be looking for some big fields and letting the Britt's roll


I have another reason for making the trip-

There are a lot of large fields with stubble and or milo. I hunted area a couple times and wished i had a couple pointing dogs. You should do fair with some big runners.
 
thanks- should be a fun time

interesting what I've been seeing this year-
very little whistle use- think they've about got their patterns
most likely the case of them all being together so much
2 boys like staying out 200-400 yards
female likes 100- 300
old female likes 50- 140

it all changes when we hit this corner of thick stuff-

I'd say they can cover a lot of ground- some think they aren't big runners- some think they are too big-

crazy this morning here- windy- let the Britts out the gate-
Shadow is standing next to the barn- I walk over- a rooster comes up- hits the wind and goes up and away- crazy flight- he had no tail feathers
 
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