ND Fed Warden Jobs

I looked up the pay scale for these positions. They vary by location but an entry level GL-5 appears to start in the low $40K/year. Not much higher than a Walmart employee. Agencies are struggling to fill "game warden" type jobs across the U.S. because the pay is not competitive. The jobs may appear to be "fun" on the surface, but I assure you (I'm a retired F/W biologist and carried a commission for 20 years in Alaska), you earn whatever they pay.
 
Powderhorn Jim said:
I looked up the pay scale for these positions. They vary by location but an entry level GL-5 appears to start in the low $40K/year. Not much higher than a Walmart employee. Agencies are struggling to fill "game warden" type jobs across the U.S. because the pay is not competitive. The jobs may appear to be "fun" on the surface, but I assure you (I'm a retired F/W biologist and carried a commission for 20 years in Alaska), you earn whatever they pay.
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yup, A lot of states actually pay better than the USFWS especially after COVID. Entry level can be a rough couple years but if you can hold out for a few years they top out at the GS-11 level.
 
gim said:
Those are currently on the chopping block thanks to Congress.

Won't be long and no one is gonna want to work there.
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The benefits are so out of whack that it's stupid. Gov EEs get a deal that no one even thinks about. Take for example a mid-level teacher in my vey mid-western suburb.

That teacher gets paid 65K/yr in pay. And gets another $40k per year in benefits and can retire with a fabulous pension before any private sector worker could.

Then we can look at police and fire. Even more craziness! 25 years on the job and retire at full pay with health benefits!! That's like being on a professional athlete salary! My cousin the fireman retired at age 50. He'll be paid to be retired for 2x as long as he ever worked!

The problem is the math just doesn't work, so it won't work. And therein lies the real problem.
 
AtTheMurph said:
The benefits are so out of whack that it's stupid. Gov EEs get a deal that no one even thinks about. Take for example a mid-level teacher in my vey mid-western suburb.

That teacher gets paid 65K/yr in pay. And gets another $40k per year in benefits and can retire with a fabulous pension before any private sector worker could.

Then we can look at police and fire. Even more craziness! 25 years on the job and retire at full pay with health benefits!! That's like being on a professional athlete salary! My cousin the fireman retired at age 50. He'll be paid to be retired for 2x as long as he ever worked!

The problem is the math just doesn't work, so it won't work. And therein lies the real problem.
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Nobody ever took a teaching job for the salary… I have two kids and a niece and a sister in law that are all teachers here. For what they have to put up with it is hardly worth it. They got into teaching as a passion even though I tried to steer them a different way. My son is an excellent, highly respected teacher. After seven years he has finally cracked 65k while some of his friends are making double that in other fields. My son had a friend with a biology degree that started out working for the Kansas Parks and he bailed because of the pay. 65k is not what it used to be
 
carptom1 said:
Nobody ever took a teaching job for the salary… I have two kids and a niece and a sister in law that are all teachers here. For what they have to put up with it is hardly worth it. They got into teaching as a passion even though I tried to steer them a different way. My son is an excellent, highly respected teacher. After seven years he has finally cracked 65k while some of his friends are making double that in other fields. My son had a friend with a biology degree that started out working for the Kansas Parks and he bailed because of the pay. 65k is not what it used to be
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As I said, the money in teaching (and other gov jobs) is in the benefits. $65k isn't a great salary, but when you retire with $650k and a pension that pays $40k/yr. It exceeds jobs that pay 2x as much.
 
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