brotha, well I shouldn't have listened to my best friend, he said, hey lets try some places a guy told me about closer to COS (up by cripple creek), hiked our butt off, nothing!! Then we went to the Wets Mts. and still didn't see anything. Now after seeing all the pics of the grouse on the site from around Routt, looks like I have finally convinced him to go with me to the spots you told me about. We will give a try on Tuesday I think....thoughts??