And yet another report

Just the cost of releasing enough pen raised birds to even make a small difference in the harvest of birds would be astronomical. I have to wave the BS flag on this one too. Maybe on a youth hunt or some small scale occasion like that but definitely not state wide. Where is the BS smilie?????LOL:D
 
Bullshirt said:
Just the cost of releasing enough pen raised birds to even make a small difference in the harvest of birds would be astronomical. I have to wave the BS flag on this one too. Maybe on a youth hunt or some small scale occasion like that but definitely not state wide. Where is the BS smilie?????LOL:D
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I agree. There would be pictures of stocking trucks and report after report from hunters and landowners if there was an operation like this in place. I don't doubt they may raise or pay to raise some birds for "special" hunts for kids, etc. A simple review of the State's budget would show the massive expense. Wisconsin for instance, has budgeted $1.03 million this year for the operation of our state game farm at Poynette which will produce about 75,000 birds this year.
 
captaincoot said:
It's more of a joke between Iowa and SD SMO not criticizing anyones way of hunting I'm referring to SD's dirty little secert:eek: The releasing of tame pheasant on public ground in SD (trailers full of them). You hit the right day on public ground after a release and it's a limit in A minute :thumbsup: I had guides and farmers from SD tell me 70-90% of pheasant shot in SD are pen raised:eek: There has to be some truth to it by how many people have told me this.
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You better go back to figuring your football picks, and quit screwing with these guy's in here:) Everybody knows that all you have to do is ask for the special license at the counter;). That way you get a five day limit frozen and wrapped. That way you can spend the week in the strip clubs and your wife still thinks you went hunting;). Watch the stripper dust/glitter. Almost got me busted last year. I just told my wife it must be off the pheasant decoys we use.
 
SD has strip clubs:eek:. Are they near the good pheasant hunting:)? I believe the pay to hunt places have to replace the birds they shoot. guy from SD told me this. Why do they have such BIG tame pheasant raising farms in SD?
I believe Iowa would release pheasant because everything the iowa goverment does gets F'd up. Thats why are numbers are down:D
 
captaincoot said:
It's more of a joke between Iowa and SD SMO not criticizing anyones way of hunting:) I'm referring to SD's dirty little secert:eek: The releasing of tame pheasant on public ground in SD (trailers full of them). You hit the right day on public ground after a release and it's a limit in A minute :thumbsup: I had guides and farmers from SD tell me 70-90% of pheasant shot in SD are pen raised:eek: There has to be some truth to it by how many people have told me this.
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I think ya got it all wrong---I'm sure that what happens is they (SDGF&P) traps wild pheasants from private land that has really good habitat and releases those birds on public land ----has to be the reason I have really good habitat and very few birds-----that's my story an I'm sticking to it.:D:eek:
 
captaincoot said:
SD has strip clubs:eek:. Are they near the good pheasant hunting:)? I believe the pay to hunt places have to replace the birds they shoot. guy from SD told me this. Why do they have such BIG tame pheasant raising farms in SD?
I believe Iowa would release pheasant because everything the iowa goverment does gets F'd up. Thats why are numbers are down:D
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Preserves have to replace birds, in fact I think they have to buy birds before they start hunting. We hunt commercially here and we never buy pheasants. I seriously doubt that the GFP actually spends money on birds.
 
These guys that go out to SD hunt hard through the thick stuff, 1-2 miles walked per bird. For someone to come on these forums to say "pen raised"

I think, an Apology is in order...:(
 
So, you want to tell me how a "pay to hunt" place can put 30 hunters through a field and they all limit out each and every time they hunt the ground that they are not putting pen raised birds back into the field to restock. Get real people if you think that is not happening.
 
I'm not at all talking about the "pay to Hunt" operations.

The pay to hunt, Some have all wild birds. Some do a great job with wild birds and habitat.

I'm talking here about those that do the public lands hunts. On their own types.
They are NOT hunting pen raised birds.
 
It happens at the big lodges sure it does but if you read the brochure most of the big pay to play places say that anyway and some of these places are open as a preserve during the off season. Pay to Play also is paying a farmer to hunt property and I'm sure most farmers don't release or have time to mess with feeding birds.

I have hunted public road right away that butted up to a preserve only separated by a minimum maintenance road and I missed what I was shooting at lol but I could see how you could get a pen raised bird in that type of situation Also some people have tons of money and own houses that they just stay in during the pheasant season and I'm sure some of these people buy pen raised birds for their property too. Some of these birds im sure make their way to public land once and a while.
 
carptom1 said:
You better go back to figuring your football picks, and quit screwing with these guy's in here:) Everybody knows that all you have to do is ask for the special license at the counter;). That way you get a five day limit frozen and wrapped. That way you can spend the week in the strip clubs and your wife still thinks you went hunting;). Watch the stripper dust/glitter. Almost got me busted last year. I just told my wife it must be off the pheasant decoys we use.
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Congo club? You have not been to SD if you have not been to the Congo.
 
mnmthunting said:
I'm not at all talking about the "pay to Hunt" operations.

The pay to hunt, Some have all wild birds. Some do a great job with wild birds and habitat.

I'm talking here about those that do the public lands hunts. On their own types.
They are NOT hunting pen raised birds.
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Spot on. The OP was about the state stocking birds on public land. That is entirely different than a preserve that is required to replace birds harvested.

That said, I had some friends that went to SD last year to a pheasant camp/hunting operation. There was six off them that went the end of the first week of December. The guy who organized it and goes there every year bragged about how the first day the group limited in 45 minutes in the field. Day 2 it took them an hour.

I thought that's pretty good for a place to put out those numbers that late in the season. Then I talked to a couple of the other guys and they said they did observe some bird behavior that wasn't typical of what they thought a late season rooster would act like. For instance they arrive at a field edge and there are two roosters standing 30 feet from the trickier watching them. The one guy also commented how they flushed very few hens.

To each their own, if they had fun, then good for them but it doesn't sound like an experience that. I personally would enjoy.
 
captaincoot said:
SD has strip clubs:eek:. Are they near the good pheasant hunting:)? I believe the pay to hunt places have to replace the birds they shoot. guy from SD told me this. Why do they have such BIG tame pheasant raising farms in SD?
I believe Iowa would release pheasant because everything the iowa goverment does gets F'd up. Thats why are numbers are down:D
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Ya coot SD has strip clubs,

But all the strippers look like they came from your neck of the woods. The good looking one come from ND. LOL:D
 
Tbear said:
Congo club? You have not been to SD if you have not been to the Congo.
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Not that I would ever frequent a place like that........in mitchell...........on main st........ but I think it was spelled the kongo club........but I really wouldn't know:D. Since my boy's have gotten older and are going north with me, I have had to clean my act up a little:D

My farmer friend in Pierre said they shut the one down by the reservation north of chamberlain. That looked like a good place to get rolled out in the middle of a field:eek:
 
Good thing I'm saying tame pheasants other wise I would have to apologize:D So you're telling me that a seed company has 180 dealers limit out for 5 days that there ain't massive releasing of tame pheasants. That place would have to put 2700tame pheasants on public lands:eek:. Thats just one week. How longs the season? Never said SD dnr was releasing just SD in general. Explain to me why ND and Neb. don't have huge pheasant pop.
I'm disappointed in you Carp Kongo club:eek: might have to deduct points for that:D
 
Lets see here praire chickens north of chamblin kongo clubs main St. in mitchell. just taking notes guys one more spot and I'll have the chicken hunting hot spot in SD located:D
 
Spent 3 days in the Chamberlain area last weekend with a group varying from 5-7 people. On day 1 we hunted public land and got one rooster. Saw a lot of hens and probably 50 roosters that got up 100+ yards out. The birds are there, just very wild. On day 2 & 3 we hunted private lands, shooting mostly raised birds. Got 9 on Friday and our limit of 18 on Saturday.

My advice, make it a fishing trip with a little bit of hunting. The fishing is fantastic! We caught a 7 man limit of walleye in under 2 hours on Friday morning. Saturday was not bad fishing either.
 
Uh ohh........looks like the cock is getting out of the bag.:D

I don't know about now, but back in the 80's and 90's thousands of pen raised birds were raised and released by farmers/hunters in South Dakota. I would suspect way more are released now due to the preserves that are all over the state that where not around in the 80's and 90's.

I'm guessing farmers/hunters have not been raising/releasing many the last 5 years or so since the wild population was so high, but that is bound to change with lower wild bird numbers.

I don't know that is really matters much, so what if you shoot some pen raised bird on public ground??????? 95% of people would never know the difference. The bad deal would be to pay to hunt "wild" birds and find out your really shooting pen raised birds. Easiest way to tell if that is going on is the rooster to hen ratio. This time of the year the ratio is pretty bad and just gets worse from here out. If your pay hunting "wild" birds and see almost as many roosters as hens your probably getting screwed.
 
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