Would like your insight on a purchase for pheasant hunting

I am not familiar with the hunting coat in question, but if it really is an "upland hunting coat", does it not have big shell pockets and a front loading game pouch? And likely a half dozen other pockets? If it does, why would a strap vest be worn? I have an old Cabelas and a LL Bean coats. Neither have much of any liner for warmth. The LLBean is waxed canvas, warmer. If it is 50°s to 40° I wear a Cabelas vest, very similar to the coat, just no sleeves. 30°s and dry the Cabelas coat with 1 long sleeved shirt, maybe a short sleeve T also. 30° with rain and temps below, the LLBeen with a shirt or 3 under depending on the temp and winds. I am always moving pheasant hunting, I have a dog, so I never block it seems. I have never thought to myself (after 10 minutes) "I wish I had more clothes on". Myself, I wouldn't consider an upland hunting coat without blaze on it.
 
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Keep'er Movin said:
I am looking at purchasing a Chief Upland jacket...actually 2. The early season and the mid season. I want to take advantage of the 50 dollars off if you spend 250 but both jackets are out of stock in my size for the blaze orange models. However, the earth tones are in stock which are green and kind of a gun metal color. I use an Orvis strap vest with blaze orange panels on the straps and on the bag/side pouches and an orange baseball cap when I hunt...always! By purchasing the non-blaze orange jackets, I could double dip and use them for hiking/everyday use and I probably would not do so with the blaze jackets (just not a super fan of wearing blaze for everyday use). Would you guys have any hesitation (safety wise) just having blaze orange on your vest and cap? I have 1.5 days to decide till the sale ends. Thanks.
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Not sure if you bought one yet but they are great vests. I can't pull the trigger on one cost is just a little too high for me. Not sure how many more years I have left to be able to hunt. I see your in Wisconsin if your close to Thunderbird Game Farm take a run out there, he has several in stock that might be your size. Can't remember what colors he has there but he does have some out there.
 
remy3424 said:
I am not familiar with the hunting coat in question, but if it really is an "upland hunting coat", does it not have big shell pockets and a front loading game pouch? And likely a half dozen other pockets? If it does, why would a strap vest be worn? I have an old Cabelas and a LL Bean coats. Neither have much of any liner for warmth. The LLBean is waxed canvas, warmer. If it is 50°s to 40° I wear a Cabelas vest, very similar to the coat, just no sleeves. 30°s and dry the Cabelas coat with 1 long sleeved shirt, maybe a short sleeve T also. 30° with rain and temps below, the LLBeen with a shirt or 3 under depending on the temp and winds. I am always moving pheasant hunting, I have a dog, so I never block it seems. I have never thought to myself (after 10 minutes) "I wish I had more clothes on". Myself, I wouldn't consider an upland hunting coat without blaze on it.
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Nope...no game bag.
 
lubers said:
Not sure if you bought one yet but they are great vests. I can't pull the trigger on one cost is just a little too high for me. Not sure how many more years I have left to be able to hunt. I see your in Wisconsin if your close to Thunderbird Game Farm take a run out there, he has several in stock that might be your size. Can't remember what colors he has there but he does have some out there.
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I'm not looking for a vest. I'm looking at Chief Upland jackets.
 
airmedic1 said:
I'm not sure I understand people's aversion to wearing blaze orange while upland hunting.
When I was in my early 20's we would all get together on opening morning of pheasant season to hunt. No one had real hunting clothes and if someone showed up with hunting pants or a real hunting coat we made fun of them. No one wore blaze orange!
We were hunting a creek bottom for pheasant and quail and it was raining and misty. We had blockers at the road but you couldn't see them from 50 yards away. When a covey of quail flushed one guy took a shot and we heard screaming in front of us. One of our blockers, an older gentleman wearing a army field jacket had been shot in the face! He had a couple pellets in his cheeks and a pellet had shattered the lens of his glasses saving his eye. Needless to say, we all quit for the day, no one felt like hunting anymore. I had good eyes back then and in the rain and mist I couldn't see the guy that was shot! The guy that shot him was devastated, he pretty much quit hunting after that.

Next year everyone had blaze orange hats and vests and we had orange hats for those that didn't because regardless of the weather, you can usually see orange in the field!
I haven't hunted with at least a blaze orange hat since that day over 40 years ago and won't consider it and I usually hunt by myself.
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Just to be clear, I always have a blaze orange hat and blaze on my vest. During WI gun season for deer, if you are pheasant hunting, you have to have more blaze on yourself than if you are pheasant hunting when it's not gun deer season. I would never do any upland hunting without a blaze hat and at least some on my torso either by shirt, coat, or vest.
 
airmedic1 said:
I'm not sure I understand people's aversion to wearing blaze orange while upland hunting.
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I wear the minimum required by law. So, in WI, that means none when I'm bird hunting. In SD, that means a hat. But, I don't gang hunt where guys are driving and posting and pass shooting birds. I hunt alone...always. I do agree it's a good idea for a most guys that hunt in groups.
 
Kre said:
I wear the minimum required by law. So, in WI, that means none when I'm bird hunting. In SD, that means a hat. But, I don't gang hunt where guys are driving and posting and pass shooting birds. I hunt alone...always. I do agree it's a good idea for a most guys that hunt in groups.
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Why not just wear it though? It's not like it's a big pain, and it's safer - even if you hunt by yourself.

I didn't even realize you didn't have to wear blaze orange when pheasant hunting in WI. Checked and you are required to wear it during any deer firearms season, but not otherwise. I don't get it.
 
SDinWI said:
Checked and you are required to wear it during any deer firearms season, but not otherwise. I don't get it.
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I actually looked into that too and I was fairly shocked to read that. Lots of grouse hunters in northern WI. I would never not be wearing a piece of blaze orange in the woods there.
 
SDinWI said:
Why not just wear it though? It's not like it's a big pain, and it's safer - even if you hunt by yourself.

I didn't even realize you didn't have to wear blaze orange when pheasant hunting in WI. Checked and you are required to wear it during any deer firearms season, but not otherwise. I don't get it.
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Well, in regards to grouse hunting, if you look at the data, wearing blaze is a solution without a problem. Since 2018, there have been 3 incidents with guys getting shot while grouse hunting. 1 was self-inflicted, so blaze wouldn't have helped this guy. 1 was where a guy was crossing a log and shot his buddy. Again, blaze wouldn't matter. The 3rd was 2 guys went in on a dog on point from opposite directions with the dog in between. One guy shot the other. Pretty careless. Would blaze have helped? Who knows.

But, if you look at the incidents, a case can be made for pheasant hunting in S.WI. When you look at those incidents, it's on congested public lands with groups of hunters. If you've ever hunted put-n-take pheasants in S.WI, you know how chaotic it can be.

The most incidents happen to turkey and waterfowl hunters...at least in WI. Those guys should be wearing blaze before grouse hunters.
 
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Good data Kre.

The problem with wearing blaze orange for turkey or waterfowl, is that they see color and the hunt is designed to draw them in close enough. The hunt would end before it even started in those situations.

They make exceptions to blaze orange here in MN for those two exact scenarios as well.

Statistically speaking, most hunting related accidents are during deer season and they occur when people are trying to climb in or out of their tree stands.
 
Grouse hunting I can understand why the incident rate is very low - tight quarters in the woods and shots hit the nearest trees 30 ft away and stop.

Pheasant hunting I still can't understand the logic of not wearing blaze. Open prairie, tall grass. Hunting public, you might not be able to notice another hunter coming in from another direction if not for blaze orange as well. Incidence rate or not, it's just safer. I don't know, we can just agree to have a different opinion on this.
 
gim said:
Good data Kre.

The problem with wearing blaze orange for turkey or waterfowl, is that they see color and the hunt is designed to draw them in close enough. The hunt would end before it even started in those situations.

They make exceptions to blaze orange here in MN for those two exact scenarios as well.

Statistically speaking, most hunting related accidents are during deer season and they occur when people are trying to climb in or out of their tree stands.
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I totally understand. The incidents with turkey hunting and waterfowling tend have extremely careless, unsafe behavior. And, when you read the incidents as a whole, you see that most shootings while hunting has nothing to do with blaze orange, it's extremely careless, unsafe behavior...at least in Wisconsin.
 
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About 5 years ago i caught a few pellets to the shoulder and a couple to the neck from about 75 yards away.... since that day I've told my self I will always have a blaze pull over or jacket under my orange filson vest. Plus a orange hat. ... not that big of a deal if your hunting alone. But anytime with someone yes. I wear it. Take a couple copper plated 5s to the neck and I'm guessing you'd wait for them to come back in stock haha
 
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About 5 years ago i caught a few pellets to the shoulder and a couple to the neck from about 75 yards away.... since that day I've told my self I will always have a blaze pull over or jacket under my orange filson vest. Plus a orange hat. ... not that big of a deal if your hunting alone. But anytime with someone yes. I wear it. Take a couple copper plated 5s to the neck and I'm guessing you'd wait for them to come back in stock haha
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Although I wear the minimum (hat) when on private ground, when on public, I'll have plenty on. I'm with you.
 
I decided to go a different direction. I was on Scheels website and noticed that a bunch of the Orvis stuff was considerably discounted. I ordered a jacket, vest, light pullover, and a long sleeve moisture wicking T-shirt (all with blaze orange by the way) for less than the cost of the two jackets I was going to purchase. The items got delivered yesterday and I am happy with my purchase.
 
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