Why don't these breeds survive in U.S.?

[1pheas4]

I know everyone has hunting on the mind right now, but I was just thinking about some of the pheasant breeds listed below. Does anyone know if these lines of pheasants have ever been released in the U.S.? If so why didn't they survive? I know they can be a bit tough to breed in captivity but they do fine in the their native lands in the wild. Just curious if anyone has any info.:rolleyes --1pheas4

Humes Bar tailed pheasant
http://www.tokinbirds.com/images/fazani/02 Hume.jpg

Elliots pheasant
http://www.animalpicturesarchive.com/animal/a2/Elliots_pheasant-display-by_Dan_Cowell.jpg

Copper pheasant
http://www.animalpicturesarchive.com/animal/a2/copper_pheasant-on_grass-by_Dan_Cowell.jpg

Japanese Green pheasant
http://www.easygazette.com/subject_sites/images/green300.jpg

 

[mfd574]

I know that there are some Japanese Greens in South Dakota. Not sure why they don't flourish like the ring-neck but maybe it will just take time. It took about 8 years after the ring-neck was released in Redfield before they could hunt them there. I know a few guys who have shot the Japanese Green before and they are pretty stunning when you hold them in the light. Obviously they were released at one time or came from a released one but sure hope a few of them can make a go at it.

 

[quail hound]

I know that in England they have some gold, lady amherest, and reeves pheasants surviving in the wild, but not thriving or expanding their range. I'm not familiar with the ones you are asking about but a lot of pheasants are mountain birds.

 

[Preston1]

I know everyone has hunting on the mind right now, but I was just thinking about some of the pheasant breeds listed below. Does anyone know if these lines of pheasants have ever been released in the U.S.? If so why didn't they survive? I know they can be a bit tough to breed in captivity but they do fine in the their native lands in the wild. Just curious if anyone has any info.:rolleyes --1pheas4

Humes Bar tailed pheasant
http://www.tokinbirds.com/images/fazani/02 Hume.jpg

Elliots pheasant
http://www.animalpicturesarchive.com/animal/a2/Elliots_pheasant-display-by_Dan_Cowell.jpg

Copper pheasant
http://www.animalpicturesarchive.com/animal/a2/copper_pheasant-on_grass-by_Dan_Cowell.jpg

Japanese Green pheasant
http://www.easygazette.com/subject_sites/images/green300.jpg

1phea4, the Japanese Green pheasant is the only "True Pheasant" on your list and will produce a fertile off spring when crossed with other true pheasants, ringneck type.
The Japanese Green is extremely wild alert and wary and they will and have survive in America. But once in the wild they will completely merge with the ringneck.The Japanese green hens are almost identical to the ringneck hens.

After five or six generations in the wild and crossing with the ringneck the ringneck gene will take over but the those crossed ringneck/japanese pheasant will look almost like a pure ringneck, but they will inherit all the wary, wild and alert traits of the japanese green pheasant.

Almost the same as the cross along the Rio Grande river in New Mexico with the White winged or Bianchi pheasant that crossed with the ringnecks in that area, which produced a wild and alert pheasant for that tough and rough area. A smaller or partial ring but agile and alert, see photo below:

http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2197361200036808327CsDykm


Most hunters in the Texas panhandle can't tell, all of the wild pheasants have a full ring and look like the Kansas ringneck but those pheasant have Japanese Green and Afghan Whitewing genes. Those genes added wariness and predator alertness to the gene pool, which helps them survive. See article below:

http://amarillo.com/stories/120201/whe_legionsofspo.shtml

I have been saying for years our pheasants need more pure authentic wild genes, see article below with more information on Japanese Green pheasants in America:
http://elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Wilson/v077n04/p0409-p0414.pdf

 

[1pheas4]

Thanks for your reply Preston1:thumbsup: So what I'm gathering is that the Japanese Green does and will do fine in the wild here, but we are not introduceing them into the gene pool for what ever the reason may be.

Also, you mentioned that the other pheasants I've listed are not compatable with the ringneck. I don't understand this. I'm seeing so many breeders now crossing Reeves with ringnecks, Godens with ringnecks, etc. Is it because their in captivity that they can cross breed?

Thanks again for your response Preston1. I alway like to hear your imput:cheers:--1pheas4

 

[quail hound]

1pheasant4, only "true" pheasant types can cross to make fertile offspring. The other crosses ie reeves or gold crosses make a beautiful but sterile offspring.

 

[1pheas4]

1pheasant4, only "true" pheasant types can cross to make fertile offspring. The other crosses ie reeves or gold crosses make a beautiful but sterile offspring.

Ah okay, thank you. So the Humes, Cooper, Elliot if crossed with a ringneck would also produce sterile chicks (like the reeves). I was missing the message there. Thanks again --1pheas4