My setter is out of Prairie Drifters Kennel and a very good dog in the field and home. I do shave both my Brittany and Setter before heading west. The Brittanys coat is already pretty short just trim up ears and feathering. The setter has very feather ears, first trip to nebraska with her, I didn't shave her, her ears got so matted from a plant/weed i had never seen before, I could grip her ears and they stayed formed and stuck straight out of her head like hairsprayed pigtails. That took some time to clean up, since then I trim her ears, tail and legs up tight, her coat is fairly flat. I think i'm slowly wearing my wife down, keep showing her puppy pictures.