Pointer Trainer in Colorado....

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Looking for a trainer along the northern Front Range to help with the foundational tools for a young 10 week old French Britney - whoa, force fetching, quartering, etc.

Does anyone have experience with...

Mark Pace - Start to Finish Gun Dog Training

Steve Chang - God Father Gun Dogs

Ben Garcia - Hide Away Kennels

Anyone else I should be considering?
 
Looking for a trainer along the northern Front Range to help with the foundational tools for a young 10 week old French Britney - whoa, force fetching, quartering, etc.

Does anyone have experience with...

Mark Pace - Start to Finish Gun Dog Training

Steve Chang - God Father Gun Dogs

Ben Garcia - Hide Away Kennels

Anyone else I should be considering?

Gee, thats an easy one...... The real pro is Ben Garcia.
 
Looking for a trainer along the northern Front Range to help with the foundational tools for a young 10 week old French Britney - whoa, force fetching, quartering, etc.

Does anyone have experience with...

Mark Pace - Start to Finish Gun Dog Training

Steve Chang - God Father Gun Dogs

Ben Garcia - Hide Away Kennels

Anyone else I should be considering?

Talk to them all! If you can do it in person all the better!!! Since you are 6 months or better away from sending him out anyway!!! Best to find a trainer early, before your pup is ready! Fit the temperment of the dog to the trainer and all should be well!! Make sure to visit the Kennel facilities!!
I have visted with Gary and Steve and they have different styles of training. Match your dog accordingly!!
 
Give Facy Kennels a look too. My Setter went through his puppy program a couple of months ago and I'm real happy with the results, and I'm looking forward to this spring when he goes back to go through the formal training there!
 
I would tell you to talk to them all.

I have been very pleased with Ben Garcia. He has done a great job of training my dogs and over 1/2 of my last litter went to Ben for the Puppy/Derby training and all of the owners are very pleased. I also know Ben has experience with Brittany's.
 
Re: Ben Garcia

My mother always said if you don't have anything good to say about someone, don't say anything. So, I won't.
 
My mother always said if you don't have anything good to say about someone, don't say anything. So, I won't.

I have a friend in a legal battle with him right now ^^^.

I used Steve Chang from Godfather Gundogs for my GSP. He is pretty good.
 
Yeah, he comes so highly recommended, but I was very disappointed. Hard on the dog, rude to the owner. My dog was filthy when I picked him up and other than the 10 minutes of work 5 days a week there was no road training or conditioning. The dogs just sit in the kennel 23 hours and 50 minutes a day. I would never recommend him to another dog owner.
 
I had a kinda special case, 4 yr. old ES, we didn't get back into hunting until he was that old (long story), so I decided to see what I could do.

Did a lot of research, met up with a couple that I narrowed it down to and these are the lessons learned.

1) All of these trainers have something to offer. All of them are different in their approaches.

2) Me, as the owner needed to pick someone that fits my personality, and more importantly the dogs personality and circumstances. I had one trainer actually ask me if Griffin was an English Setter, granted he is a Ryman-Hemlock type, but really..... He also told me that my dog had hip problems...I had my dogs hips x-rayed at an early age and they are just fine. Different breeds of dogs have different gaits. Mine happens to gallop like a horse. In addition, I watched him work with two dogs in his kennel at the time, and I if he lets potential customers see him burn dogs that way, my question is what does he do when nobody is there. Also, he pretty much crapped on the GSP's as the pigs of dogs. Had to vent a little, sorry, I was very disappointed, and it has stuck with me. Needless to say I didn't go with him.

3) I also think it is important to discuss what your goals are for the dog. I knew that I didn't need anything fancy. I didn't want him to look pretty, I just needed him to hunt. Totally different story if you want the pup to go with the NSTRA events, lots more pressure, lots more expectations from the dog and from the trainer.

4) Biggest piece of advice, all of these trainers provide training classes somewhere, where you can take your dog and do a 1/2 to a full day of training with your dog. It gives you insight to the trainer, you will get to see his approach, and this was invaluable to me.

Mark Pace - does training days at the Colorado Gun Dog Association grounds.

Steve Chang - has training days at his facility in Parker.

Ben Garcia - call his facility and ask for a meet and greet.

5) Make sure that they allow you to come whenever you want to and are open to ALL of your questions. It's your dog and your hard earned money that you are paying them! Some of these guys are kinda hard on that one. My trainer had to deal with craploads of questions during that month.

You will hear good and bad about each of these trainers, everyone has the one that worked for them. I am thrilled with the results from the trainer I went with and I wouldn't change. Good luck with your search, it's a tough decision!!
 
re: Ben Garcia

My mother always said if you don't have anything good to say about someone, don't say anything. So, I won't.

I have so much not to say about him as Brid-man's mother suggested.. I will say this, no one can train 26+ dogs and give them time. Finished my dog using the CGDA grounds and Kiowa Creek Sporting club facilities.
 
I definitely would talk to Steve Chang before making your decision.
Steve did what I believe is an amazing job on my 3 year old GSP and 8-mo old setter pup last fall, he not only brought out best in each dog, he also took the time to teach me to better understand of my dogs which, in term, improved our relationships a bunch. No more screaming or blowing the whistle till I turn blue and my dogs bahave "right" in the field with hardly any directions, I can't be any happier with their performance. Steve is first class all the way !!! BTW, he has Britanys.
 
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