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retrvrman

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So I just wanted to vent a bit (I already did on the dove hunting thread) about how it is my perception (perception is reality sometimes) that SOME hunters out on the SWA's nowadays have no respect for other hunters.

Case in point, I hunted a SWA out east of Colorado Springs last year for dove opening day. Got out there early, only to see what looked like a rock concert of trucks. 1st, DOW states that you are not allowed to camp on SWA's however I guess they didn't read the rules.

So, I tried to figure out where guys where. Grabbed my stuff and dog and headed over to some rolled up hay bales. Now this is actually how we would hunt down in Texas, mowed rows of sunflower, with hay bales placed around, grab your bucket/swivel, shells, water, and blast em.

I sat down only to figure out after the sun came up that I was in the middle of a crossfire :eek::eek:

Tried to move out further and you could see me, however the guys to the left and right of me in the trees would still shoot out towards me and I was getting pelted with shot. I hollered, they stoopped but then started up again.

I did end up with like 7 dove, left about 0900hrs. I will not go back opening day or weekend again unless it is private. May try to head out like the next weekend of so before it gets to cold and pushes them out.

So how do others on this forum feel? You know I try to have respect for folks and I try to teach my son the same.

Greg
 
Understand about the vent. Not a fan of being pelted with spent shot myself, but it is better than the direct charge coming your way. Not really familiar with what is available down in the Springs, but I am going to guess that you went to one close to town where there will be a crowd. When you get to the city crowd yoiu will find they push camping though I suspect they just got there early, like 4 or 5 then going to spots they already know from past experiences. Private is nice, in you can have a bit more control as to placement and rules as there will be none in public, heck lucky they all can even find the parking lot.

Mainly in public areas the users have experience with the property, either hard won over time or shown by others. My favorite public has two access points, actually three if you know it, and it took a few years to figure out the best spots, and how hunters situate themselves but now it is a fun place to be.... as long as it isn't a weekend opener. Yep, private land for me this year with the only charge is to take a few PDs out while there in the PM.

Addressing one point of your rant though, I have noticed over the years of transplants coming in with this attitude, "we did it this way back home, by golly going to make it the same way here, ought to be a law".

Thanks for the service, sorry CO isn't working quite right for ya but hope you find a cure for the homesickness and Garland, By God,Texas is blessed soon by your return.
 
Yeah, I too will be stuck on a SWA this weekend
 
JDWnColo said:
Understand about the vent. Not a fan of being pelted with spent shot myself, but it is better than the direct charge coming your way. Not really familiar with what is available down in the Springs, but I am going to guess that you went to one close to town where there will be a crowd. When you get to the city crowd yoiu will find they push camping though I suspect they just got there early, like 4 or 5 then going to spots they already know from past experiences. Private is nice, in you can have a bit more control as to placement and rules as there will be none in public, heck lucky they all can even find the parking lot.

Mainly in public areas the users have experience with the property, either hard won over time or shown by others. My favorite public has two access points, actually three if you know it, and it took a few years to figure out the best spots, and how hunters situate themselves but now it is a fun place to be.... as long as it isn't a weekend opener. Yep, private land for me this year with the only charge is to take a few PDs out while there in the PM.

Addressing one point of your rant though, I have noticed over the years of transplants coming in with this attitude, "we did it this way back home, by golly going to make it the same way here, ought to be a law".

Thanks for the service, sorry CO isn't working quite right for ya but hope you find a cure for the homesickness and Garland, By God,Texas is blessed soon by your return.
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You are welcome and thank you for the kind words. It isn't the CO isn't working out. I do call Colorado Springs my home. There are alot of things that I do really like about living here and alot that I do not like nor miss about Texas.

I have hunted at SWA's that were anywhere from 2 to 3hrs or more away from Colorado Springs. I am not that naive to think that anything close will be a "quiet little place". I have been here since 2002 (was stationed here for 4yrs back in 1995 through 1998). So I have spent alot of time in Colorado and hunting.

I am working on trying to find somewhere and I will at some point. I used to have a place but DOW screwed it up and I tried to hunt there two years in a row and we didn't see one single dove, literally on opening day :eek::eek:

The place that is really paced and bad is Pueblo SWA, horrible.

Good luck to everyone and be safe...

Greg
 
hunter94 said:
it's just not worth it, why go?
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Because I have a secret and limit out everyday! I hike away from everyone else:D...LOL! ....ya do have to have a big enough SWA to do this, and be willing to walk where no one else will:thumbsup:
 
A secret place, willing to work for it and use other hunters to push them your way... ie, be where no bird expects.
 
hunt safe

Always take responsibility for your own safety ,never trust others to do that.



remember , some of the other guys in the field are cityboys. without a brain in their head and probably still hung over from the nit before!!!!!!!


Most every farmer I've met would take a $100 bill to let you and your son to have a quality day of hunting ; hell it cost more than that to go watch a football game these days.
 
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wilson said:
If a field is taken ,move on , teach your boy good hunting practices,


Always take responsibility for your own safety ,never trust others to do that.



remember , some of the other guys in the field are cityboys. without a brain in their head and probably still hung over from the nit before!!!!!!!



sorry. but think about IT !!!!



Most every farmer I've met would take a $100 bill to let you and your son to have a quality day of hunting ; hell it cost more than that to go watch a football game these days.
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Sir,

I am well aware of safety. Where we setup initially looked well out of there shot pattern and such. I have been hunting for long time, I am not a dumbass.

I am not necessarily calling people stupid as much as I am saying that they are not very respectful. If I did say stupid then I misspoke, however I WAS NOT TALKING TO YOU!!!

I take offense to you reponse to my post. It pisses me off to be perfectly honest!!!

Gregory L. Floyd Jr., (retired Air Force, father of a disabled daughter and special needs son)
 
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take responsibility for your actions

no matter; never set up, down range of a hunting group that was there first.


take responsibility for your actions
 
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retrvrman said:
Sir,
Bite your tongue. When I drove out there for the FIRST time, I didn't expect to see that and we were already there and I did not have anywhere to go, my son didn't have the patience for another car ride. My son is bipolar and ADHD so it is tough already for hime on some things, let alone a long truck ride.

You damn right you are sorry...jump back!!

I am well aware of safety. Where we setup initially looked well out of there shot pattern and such. I have been hunting for long time, I am not a dumbass.

I am not necessarily calling people stupid as much as I am saying that they are not very respectful. If I did say stupid then I misspoke, however I WAS NOT TALKING TO YOU!!!

I take offense to you reponse to my post. It pisses me off to be perfectly honest!!!

Gregory L. Floyd Jr., (retired Air Force, father of a disabled daughter and special needs son)
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First off I commend you for trying to get your son out to hunt, especially a son dealing with those issues. Many fathers would not put out the effort. That being said, opening day dove may not be the place to expose a kid to hunting on public ground. It is crazy here in kansas too. I usually wait a couple weeks and hunt during the week a couple days if possible, sometimes there is nearly as much action and not many hunters. I don't know why people feel the need to draw conclusions and chastise on here. I guess their lives are so perfect, they need new lives to fix.
 
Wilson and retrvrman,

I'm not here to lay blame or take sides. Both of you need to stop. PM's sent.

Thank you.
 
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