I have several pr of Kenetreks and have not seen a model that did not have the waterproof liner (which works very welll, BTW!). They are a great boot but weigh too much for me on most days. In rough country or in snow, I will prolly have Kenetreks on, but not on dry days on the prairie. Last year that was just about all we had, but who knows what this year will bring. I always have the Kenetreks in case they are needed.Kenetreks are 25 percent off right now. I bought some safaris at the beginning of the summer. They are light. Closer to a mid height hiker . No waterproof liner. But from what I saw during a wet June treated they stayed dry.