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KBell

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The Iowa Legislature approved yesterday by an overwhelming margin-one no vote, to study why we have a declining pheasant population in Iowa. The monies are to be from sources other than the state coffers.

No details yet but plenty of debate on what a waste this is. More details to follow. Please post what you discover.
 
The Iowa Legislature approved yesterday by an overwhelming margin-one no vote, to study why we have a declining pheasant population in Iowa. The monies are to be from sources other than the state coffers.

No details yet but plenty of debate on what a waste this is. More details to follow. Please post what you discover.

OMG, these are the same people who are studying shrimp swimming in a glass of water! :eek:
 
Things that have no effect. chemicals we should use more:thumbsup: filter strips yes we should plow them under:thumbsup: no winter habitat global warming guys don't need it:thumbsup: $ for by governor branstad:thumbsup:
 
Things that have no effect. chemicals we should use more:thumbsup: filter strips yes we should plow them under:thumbsup: no winter habitat global warming guys don't need it:thumbsup: $ for by governor branstad:thumbsup:

Best answer ever. Thanks for the humor Coot. :thumbsup:
 
Study and $$$$

So far I have stumbled upon the idea presented of a one-year study and telemetry on pheasant hens and 1 to 5 million the state is seeking from groups like Isaac Walton League, Pheasants Forever, Iowa Conservation groups, etc.

Will be interesting to see who "starts the ball rollin" on this. :D
 
i think the 1-5 mil could be better spend immediately on land/habitat acquisition. i can't imagine spending money on a study, when we all know habitat is the key.....a study simply pads the pockets of those that are doing the "work".........:(
 
i think the 1-5 mil could be better spend immediately on land/habitat acquisition. i can't imagine spending money on a study, when we all know habitat is the key.....a study simply pads the pockets of those that are doing the "work".........:(

Sure be a nice job for someone related to these legislators, I would apply if I thought I had a chance. None of those guys obviously read the PF Journal or they would already have the answer.
 
Lack of Pheasants

I fiqured that out a few years ago. I am from Indiana and hunted Iowa for about 14 years. I had 6 private farms that I hunted for all those years. Great pheasant habitat and many pheasants. About 4 years ago I headed out to Iowa to the Millersburg area where I hunted all of those 14 years. I woke up that morning with the same excitement that I had, had for the 14 years prior. When I got to my first farm it had all be mowed and looked like a golf course, the same for the next 4 farms. All but 1 farm had taken their property out of CRP. The sad thing was I had called a month or so ahead of time to let the land owners know I was coming and not one had told me that they had taken it out of CRP. I hunted one farm for 2 days and went home cutting my traditional trip short by 3 days. I never went back. I have had people tell me that from Millersburg staight north they have seen no pheasants and very little CRP. I dont clain to be very smart but the way I fiqure, no cover or habitat means no PHEASANTS. I truely miss those days. Now that I am retired I have plenty of time to hunt. I will be heading out to SOUTH DAKOTA this fall but would love to stop in Iowa and hunt but it just doesnt look like it is worth the stop. Hope things get back to the way they were in Iowa but I am not sure if it ever will.
 
I fiqured that out a few years ago. I am from Indiana and hunted Iowa for about 14 years. I had 6 private farms that I hunted for all those years. Great pheasant habitat and many pheasants. About 4 years ago I headed out to Iowa to the Millersburg area where I hunted all of those 14 years. I woke up that morning with the same excitement that I had, had for the 14 years prior. When I got to my first farm it had all be mowed and looked like a golf course, the same for the next 4 farms. All but 1 farm had taken their property out of CRP. The sad thing was I had called a month or so ahead of time to let the land owners know I was coming and not one had told me that they had taken it out of CRP. I hunted one farm for 2 days and went home cutting my traditional trip short by 3 days. I never went back. I have had people tell me that from Millersburg staight north they have seen no pheasants and very little CRP. I dont clain to be very smart but the way I fiqure, no cover or habitat means no PHEASANTS. I truely miss those days. Now that I am retired I have plenty of time to hunt. I will be heading out to SOUTH DAKOTA this fall but would love to stop in Iowa and hunt but it just doesnt look like it is worth the stop. Hope things get back to the way they were in Iowa but I am not sure if it ever will.

like i said..........there is no mystery as to why things have gone to hell, fence-row to fence-row farming......most of iowa will turn into a put and take state release program.......whoopee!
 
Makes you wonder why they even bother to attempt this "study" when you KNOW they won't do a damn thing to rectify the situation. Who do they think they are trying to fool? No money is coming out of their coffer, like to do a study as to how much is going in to THEIR pockets.
 
I fiqured that out a few years ago. I am from Indiana and hunted Iowa for about 14 years. I had 6 private farms that I hunted for all those years. Great pheasant habitat and many pheasants. About 4 years ago I headed out to Iowa to the Millersburg area where I hunted all of those 14 years. I woke up that morning with the same excitement that I had, had for the 14 years prior. When I got to my first farm it had all be mowed and looked like a golf course, the same for the next 4 farms. All but 1 farm had taken their property out of CRP. The sad thing was I had called a month or so ahead of time to let the land owners know I was coming and not one had told me that they had taken it out of CRP. I hunted one farm for 2 days and went home cutting my traditional trip short by 3 days. I never went back. I have had people tell me that from Millersburg staight north they have seen no pheasants and very little CRP. I dont clain to be very smart but the way I fiqure, no cover or habitat means no PHEASANTS. I truely miss those days. Now that I am retired I have plenty of time to hunt. I will be heading out to SOUTH DAKOTA this fall but would love to stop in Iowa and hunt but it just doesnt look like it is worth the stop. Hope things get back to the way they were in Iowa but I am not sure if it ever will.

Labman 500, I sure enjoyed your post. You tell the truth and have the correct answer.
 
Iowa is finished, has been finished and is never coming back.

Labman 500 you had better get to South Dakota soon as it is headed down the SAME PATH.
 
unfortunately, except for the preserves in SD, that is likey to be the case. the only way SD can hang on at all to the huge NR revenue will be a huge yearly stocking program with pen raised birds released a week before the season opener........sad. :(
 
Iowa declined re pheasants for a variety of reasons.

CRP decline, surely, and fence row eradication, of course.
But, a couple of points...weather and principally the floods a while back and the snow, with ice, more recently are what slammed the birds.

Who would not expect CRP to decline as land becomes more profitable from either "not making it anymore" or farmers chasing the next great way to feed their families. Truthfully, Iowa pheasants were, by and large, abnormally high....some habitat issues are cyclical by nature. CRP and CREP and whatever are exactly that....could those programs return? Sure, measuring time and success by our or our dog's life tho is a poor measure. Luckily, pheasants can be raised and released, they can be trapped and transferred and they will return in a near instant, if conditions improve.
Pheasants are simple to manage. comparably.
Will that be soon?..not likely by the measure above but no one can predict a firm failure to ever have pheasants numbers approaching those of the past.
And, really, it is unreasonable to assume that the abnormal, and largely artificially-induced numbers recently will be matched...or should be matched.
Same as no one can or even should try and match the numbers of ruffed grouse in the appalachians at the turn to 20s of the last century....those numbers were as created by logging and burns of a far different economic times than now, as were a portion of the Iowa pheasants by Big Government.

Should the Iowa DNR do a study?
As with Ohio studying ruffed grouse...likely not, as the will and the cash to formulate change is not there post study...or not present in enough voters to require it to be there.
But, I say, Study Away...maybe lightning will strike and something may result that will take a small step to better cover or better understanding of the importance of diverse habitat......not for the pheasants...but for a whole range of critters. That will be the key to finding backing apart from what is a very, very small group of birdhunters.
And, I know, it is easy and common to shout at any DNR but, they have issues, self-generated and not, that can bind their hands...."fix it, DNR" is a mite silly when the fix is not within their pervue or the fix requires a voice made louder by more than the voices of birdhunters.

I hunted Iowa for a number of years in an area that remained good hunting, for many reasons till very recently, but change is to be expected and I have moved on. Moved on to another state where change will also impact the birds, and myself.
It is to be expected...not welcomed or bluntly accepted but change is more easily understood when the widest and longest view of all birdhunting versus Progress is examined.
And remember...Pheasants are easy birds to return to an area...comparably.
Till then, the Superslab is a Birdhunter's friend...embrace it.
 
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Iowa is finished, has been finished and is never coming back.

Labman 500 you had better get to South Dakota soon as it is headed down the SAME PATH.

Safari, you are back, where were you? I see you are beating your NEGATIVE drum again but unfortunately, you might be right one of these times. A shame Benelli Banger isn't around to shed some positive light on the pheasant numbers. Where in the heck did he go anyhow?
 
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