Don't give up just yet!

Hello Nate,

Beautiful picture and nice birds! I was stuck doing honey-dos today and a little shopping for Xmas. Did you try the second skin on Gunner?

I will be hunting some public ground before Xmas. It looks like our bit of snow will be gone tomorrow. I don't mind that at all. Are you still seeing younger birds? What I hunted Tuesday produced younger birds. I still keeping track of the hen to rooster ratios. I will have a report at season's end. By the way I dropped in our home place today and saw the five birds that we have on trail cam. They are "bunched up" if you can call it that after our .5 inch of snow. No other tracks on our food plots.:mad: It is amazing how few birds my county has.
Honey-dos . . . I got mine done this afternoon, after hunting.

Second skin . . . I actually forgot, but remembered (that I'd forgot) while in the field. I thought of your story told of your friend and his dog. Luckily, Gunner isn't limping around tonight. It was a relatively short hunt.

Snow . . . I was surprised to see that much snow where I hunted today (only 20 minutes from DSM). We've no snow in Grimes. I too am perfectly fine with that!

Roosters . . . all three came from different hatches. The first was likely a this year bird, early hatch. The second -- which held under Gunner's point for about 3 minutes while I slogged through knee deep water (cattails, etc.) -- was a very late hatch this year. Amazingly enough, he still had white on his belly. The last was a smart old bird, second year (23 inch tail feather), that made Gunner track him until getting pinned on an edge. He did end up holding extremely tight at the end though . . . I had to kick, kick, kick, before he flushed off the boot.

Your birds . . . at least you've got five!
 
Thanks Nate.

I know I should be grateful for the 5 I have but I reminisced today about the 57 shot in 2008, 63 in 2009, 60 in 2010 off of our family farm. My notebook would have me at just over 40 on average with three weeks left in the season. As I have shared, this year stands at zero. I do not intend to change it.

I also have had some great(long) points with Sophie the past two outings. We had a very long hen point on Tuesday. My two Pocahontas veterans were long points. I am looking forward to hunting public on Saturday. Will be interesting to see if the trend in points continues. In comparison(notebook) to previous years, we would already be experiencing more wild flushes and less points due to the hunting pressure and number of birds. The points of late have been very solid.
 
Have the day off tomorrow . . . thinking of grabbing an hour or two of solo hunt time. If I do, I'll post how I do. Looks to be fairly warm.
 
Quick report for all. I hunted on X-mas eve with two nephews and myself, no dog. We hunted public land in central Iowa. (Nate, thanks again and those are the spots we hit.) We did alot of walking and saw two roosters and at least 14 hens. I did see one other solo hunter out with his dog but after some small talk, he did not invite us to join him so we left that spot. No shots fired at either rooster as they were getting up out of range and flying to the cattails. I had a couple of the hens get up under foot but neither of the roosters. Anyway, good to see some birds and especially good numbers of hens for next years prospects. If this weather continues it can only help. Now, I have an unfilled late muzzy deer tag I need to try and fill next week. So, I am afraid I have chased my last rooster of the season. That is unless I get my deer next week. Then I may have one more hunt in Southern Iowa left. We will see. Hope you all had a good holiday and a few birds!
 
Have the day off tomorrow . . . thinking of grabbing an hour or two of solo hunt time. If I do, I'll post how I do. Looks to be fairly warm.
Well, I'm happy I made the trek out this afternoon.

Got my workout in, played with the kids, and decided to hit a field or two around noon today. My two oldest asked I "bring back two birds". I shared I'd be happy with one, and they countered with "you need to set higher goals, Dad". I smiled, and jumped in the truck.

First field . . . only about 20 acres, and one that hasn't been worth a darn the past two years. Just Gunner and me, so I give him the okay to lead with plans to follow.

About 5 minutes in, Gunner goes on point, and I see a doe jump up. Figuring he was smelling her, I give him the verbal release, but he's not having it. I step in, and up comes a hen. Good to see. 10 seconds later, another point. My head is in the game now, I approach, and a rooster flushes with the wind, over the top of both me and Gunner. I swing, shoot, and down goes the bird. A back shot. Gunner is on the spot far faster than me, but then takes a hard right about 20 yards away. As I run there, another hens flushes at my feet. Back Gunner comes with the bird in his mouth, still alive. A nice find; running rooster in 7 foot tall blue stem. One in the bag, and I'm happy with that.

Gunner continues west, into the wind, and locks up again . . . this time in only about a foot of grass. I step in, and up comes another hen. Her flush pulls another one into the air. 10 yards away, another point, and another hen.

We move on, and I can see that Gunner remains interested. This was his day; the best he's been all year. It was as if he was on a rope to all of these birds. Hard charging, quartering as if he had the 50 foot lead on, then slamming on the breaks and locking up solid. So solid you can see pronounced muscle definition, foam at the mouth, raised front leg and tail pointing to the heavens. Man I love that. Anyhow, back to the story . . .

. . . we're still heading west, about 1 minute since the last hen point and we're nearing the far west edge. Beep, beep, beep . . . another point. I step in, but nothing. I turn back and focus on Gunner's eyes. He's telling me to step left. I do, and cackle, cackle, cackle. Another rooster, flushing with the wind to the left. Bang. One shot, and this time it's perfect. Gunner retrieves the dead bird to hand.

I'm more than satisfied now. Superb dog work, beautiful day, and good bird numbers seen for only 20 minutes afield . . . in a field that hadn't held birds the past couple of years. I'd only made one pass through the field, but I had two birds in the bag, and didn't want to take any more out. I unload the gun and take a diagnol back to the truck, Gunner quartering in front.

About 30 yards from the truck, and fitting for how the day has gone so far, Gunner again slams on point. This was in relatively short grass, so I could see his full body. I would have paid $100 to have a camera on hand in that moment. He just looked perfect. Absolutely the epitome of what I desire in my hunting dogs.

Again, I step in, only to reward Gunner (recall I've unloaded gun) and up comes another rooster. He was beautiful. Big, bright colors, and long tail feather. I took in the sight, reflected on the moment, thanked Gunner, and we jumped in the truck.

Headed towards home now, and I'm approaching another of my fields that I hadn't yet taken a bird from. What the heck, Gunner and I decided to make one pass out and back and then call it a day. Park the truck, step out, and off we go heading south.

It wasn't until the far south edge that Gunner got birdy. He creeped some, then locked up. I walk in, nothing. Release Gunner, he tracks only about 10 yards, then another point. Again, nothing. Release, track, and point again. This time a hen flushes. I note they'll be running in this field.

We're heading back to the truck now, and Gunner isn't very hot. He's working, just not getting a point every minute. Had I become spoiled? ;-)

Then, out of the corner of my left eye, I notice something black fly INTO the field in front of me . . . maybe about 60 yards up. Could it actually have been a rooster? I'm determined to find out.

Gunner and I adjust slightly, and head that way. Once we got there, I knew it was a bird the way Gunner was acting. He started to trail . . . problem was we were now walking WITH the wind, so Gunner had to stay close enough to keep scent, yet far enough away so as not to bust the bird. I stay right on top of Gunner.

After about 50 yards of tracking, Gunner locks up solid. The wind is at his back, so I'm a bit skeptical that a bird is holding there. I figured it was just his scent . . . but was wrong. Up comes the rooster, one shot, and he's dead. Gunner retrieves to hand to finish off our limit.

What a day. You can't tell me it was coincidence that that rooster flew INTO the field we were hunting. I think I was rewarded for good stewardship on the field prior. Call me crazy.

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Nate, what an awesome day! One of the best reads in awhile. I wish I could have been there, only watching it all from a distance. It sounds like one of your most memorable hunts of the year. Congrats to you AND Gunner.
 
Quick report for all. I hunted on X-mas eve with two nephews and myself, no dog. We hunted public land in central Iowa. (Nate, thanks again and those are the spots we hit.) We did alot of walking and saw two roosters and at least 14 hens. I did see one other solo hunter out with his dog but after some small talk, he did not invite us to join him so we left that spot. No shots fired at either rooster as they were getting up out of range and flying to the cattails. I had a couple of the hens get up under foot but neither of the roosters. Anyway, good to see some birds and especially good numbers of hens for next years prospects. If this weather continues it can only help. Now, I have an unfilled late muzzy deer tag I need to try and fill next week. So, I am afraid I have chased my last rooster of the season. That is unless I get my deer next week. Then I may have one more hunt in Southern Iowa left. We will see. Hope you all had a good holiday and a few birds!
Good to read you got to see some birds! 16 on public is nothing to complain about. Wish your nephews would have had the opportunity to shoot though. Next time.

Post pics of your 165 taken muzzy hunting. :)
 
Hello Nate,

Great story and nice birds. You may have established your new goal with the tail feather of the far right bird. I was out today also. Will post my adventures. I also believe you were rewarded for your stewardship.:)

Going to try your recipe with my wife tomorrow evening. The cranberry juice marinade is a new one for me!:p
 
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In a bit of a funk. Three straight morning hunts with abosolutely no birds seen. I've only been hunting pheasants for 4-5 years, but I've never had that happen. Frustrating!
 
Decided to do some 'knocking-and-talking' this morning. Landed one new field which looked exceptional, but netted only one bird bagged.

After seeing 4 roosters, 3 hens, 2 coyotes, and 2 deer inside of the first five minutes I thought I was in for a banner day. An hour and a half later, and just before returning to the truck, Gunner locks up on a rooster and I drop him.

Hit one of my 5 acre pieces on the way home which produced 3 roosters (2 flushed wild) and 1 hen (held on point). The one rooster that held on Gunner's point was my second bagged . . . and I decide to head home.

Two shots . . . two dead roosters . . . both off solid points. A good day.

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Nate,

Since I consider you one of the expert hunters on the forum maybe you can help me out. Lets say your hunting a larger grass field say 40+ acres that doesn't have geographic features that break it up well. How does one man and a dog attack a big square field?

Do you have a set pattern you try to walk or do you just follow the dog? Its my first year hunting behind a dog and I'm struggling a bit with how to hunt larger plots (Usually public).

I've been trying to perimeter the plot and then cut down the middle but I've not had much luck.

Would appreciate your thoughts or any others as well.
 
Lets say your hunting a larger grass field say 40+ acres that doesn't have geographic features that break it up well. How does one man and a dog attack a big square field?
I'm far from any expert; still learning as I go myself. That said, I'd respond to your question with "it depends". Here's why -->

In my opinion, four major factors require one tailor his approach within a field. There's more to consider, but I find focusing on these four result in success more often than not for me.
  1. Weather: Temp and wind direction/speed. Avoid hunting with the wind when able, to reduce noise and give the dog the best opportunity to scent the birds. If cold and nasty, hunt the heavier grass. If warm and sunny, hunt lighter (foxtail, etc.) grass.
  2. Field variation: I love hunting transition areas from one type of grass to another. Interior 'edges', if you will. I find birds often loaf here.
  3. Time of day: Are birds on roost (early morning)? Are they eating (usually twice a day)? Are they loafing (after eating, and dependent upon weather)? Time of day and one's ability to predict this regularly results in birds bagged.
  4. Hunting pressure: I think most people hunt field edges, and often just the field edges. This is particularly true if the 'middle' is thick and hard to walk. So, with the exception of trying to catch birds eating or just coming into loaf time, I don't focus on field edges. Also, if a field is pressured, I often hunt the hardiest, nastiest, furthest away piece of the field that I think birds may seek refuge in. Think 'escape routes' too.

Anyhow, some quick hitters into my related thoughts. Specific approaches like 'cutting corners', 'Zs', 'stop and goes', 'Ls', etc. work too . . . and I apply most of them . . . but based upon 1-4 above.

Hope this helps.
 
Hello JChristen and Nate,

I agree with everything that Nate shared and the reasoning why. I believe, IMHO, that he left one major point out. Your dog. I have hunted with dogs that do well in CRP and those that do not. I have had dogs that performed well around standing corn and those that did not. Does your dog work the cover while you are in the CRP or is he/she just following you? It takes much work and some additional training to get most pointing dogs to work heavy cover. Heck, I once owned a Lab that hated water. Who would have thought that?

Not to beat this point to death but I will add what my most important "asset" or tip is. My dog. I owe much of my success this difficult season to Sophie. Yes I have to gain access and drive to the birds. Once I have fulfilled my part, our success really does hinge on what Sophie is doing with and for me.

In this off season work your dog in all kinds of cover and focus on what he/she struggles with most. That will be what you want to improve before next season.:)
 
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Glad you enjoyed the pheasant recipe, KBell! I'm due to make it again myself.

This afternoon . . . I'm taking a 73 year old out for the first time. He invited me to hunt his ground, wanting to shoot a bird over Gunner. It's expansive cover, rolling hills, nice CRP . . . should produce some birds.

I'm guessing the warmer weather will keep the pheasants on the move, and I'm hoping we can physically get within gun range. Time will tell.

I'll post a report afterwards.
 
A fun day today. Beautiful ground, good company, and exceptional weather. Good bird numbers as well.

I was utterly impressed with Gail . . . the 73 year old . . . and his level of fitness. He walked with us for the entire time, I'd say about two hours, and this wasn't the easiest of walking; hills, some thick cover, fences to cross, etc. I can only hope to be as fit as he is when I'm 73.

Bird count . . . 11 roosters and 10 hens. Many others running too. All three roosters bagged came off of Gunner's points. I got two, and my buddy and Gail tag teamed one; a second year bird that held extremely tight, requiring Gunner come back and point the same spot after my buddy tromped through it the first time. Another reminder to 'always trust the dog'!

Two nice finds and retrieves by the dogs as our shooting was less than stellar today. The first ran about 60 yards (poor shot by me) and the second required Gunner cross a creek, run the rooster down, pick him up, and cross back over to my buddy.

Some pics snapped throughout the few hours -->

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Thanks for the post, looks like some nice cover and a fun hunt !
Wonder how long the CRP stay that way, in the first photo you can see the terraces ??? The way CRP is disappearing every year, we need to enjoy it why we can.
 
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Thanks for the post, looks like some nice cover and a fun hunt !
Wonder how long the CRP stay that way, in the first photo you can see the terraces ??? The way CRP is disappearing every year, we need to enjoy it why we can.
He re-enrolled for another 10 years just last year. So 9 more years guaranteed.
 
Headed out here shortly for the last day of the season. No idea where I'm going yet . . . will be a spur of the moment decision.

Will hopefully have a good report to post on my return.
 
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