I co-owned a dog with CA back in the 80's, a male. We bred that male to lewellen female and had a terrific litter. I kept one female which was a leftover that turned out to be one of the best dogs I ever had the pleasure of hunting with. I let Scott Miller, maybe the best trainer in the country, do some force fetch with her and at that time said she was the best dog in his kennels. She has been deceased for over 15 yrs now and we tried several attempts to breed her but she never took.