Nick
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Sounds like you are having a nice end to the season!
Birds are still out there...
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Sounds like you are having a nice end to the season!
My only point was that (not this site as folks have been better about it - but places such as FB most specifically - make hotspotting very easy to do - and folks on FB do not censor themselves very well - especially out of staters visiting KS - they are the biggest offenders I've seen in online posts about giving a location -- so where I was going with all of this is that most places do not have birds anymore - KS population has went to the crapper (generally speaking in that the good populations are more highly concentrated than ever before IMO) - so hotspotting now with fewer places to hunt and fewer birds to boot and on top of that more people from out of state traveling to hunt does tend to concentrate hunters.
So how's that for a short explanation --- I'm just hypothesizing that is why the poster saw so many people. I know where you are Mike as I've been to the same city but probably hunting a different direction and would see people earlier in the season but saw no one this past weekend, I came home yesterday and was just tired - plus wanted to beat the bad weather and had to be home anyways by today - folks I talked to the previous couple weekends weren't finding birds so I think that is why no one came back.
But NW KS has been blabbed all over facebook (Saw a lot of posts in the OK and TX bird hunters groups - I think the KS hunt and fish group and the Wild bird hunters group policed folks giving locations a lot more which I certainly appreciated )- so one would tend to think NW KS would receive higher traffic with more folks openly talking about it and posting tailgate pics.
Not here -- I'm a member of a lot of FB bird hunter groups - there are some big ones that have mentioned NW KS many many times with tail gate photos - so Im guessing that is one reason -- also remember folks last year doing the same and for the same general area. Glad you had a good hunt and dont want you to think i was giving you a hard time - simply commenting on the effects of hotspotting which is a more modern issue with social media. Before I think the effects were somewhat delayed as you'd read a magazine article and the pressure would increase a year later -- now the pressure can increase in more "real time".
fsentkilr
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The public ground may get more pressure when it gets out an area holds birds. The birds will just move off the public on to private ground. When the pressure lays off the Public they will move back to it if the cover is good. The reason there are hot spots and places w/o birds is very simple. They haven't recovered from the drought years yet. The areas that had birds survive the drought the hunting is very good from what I have seen. It takes a long time for places that had sections and sections of ground w/o birds to come back. If you want to have a good year next year if we have a good nesting season, just focus on areas that have good numbers of hens this year. If we get several years of good hatches in a row, the birds will get spread back out and the areas w/o birds will get better.
Nick
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Didn't take your post as giving me a hard time at all. I was just giving my opinions too. I understand what you are saying. This upland game is a lot tougher than it used to be for many reasons. I still enjoy it and hope it turns around.
People on facebook Hot Spot like NO OTHER. It's literally an epidemic. I've even seen guys in the Wild Bird Hunters group on FB post exact WIHA locations. It's almost always out of state hunters doing it with other out of staters coming to KS.
Nick
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That just seems crazy to me, but I guess if they aren't planning to come back to KS again until next year they don't care about giving exact locations. I was very fortunate to have access to all the private ground we could hunt from the time I was 12 until I was about 30. Now, other than a small amount of private ground around Oakley, all of my hunting is done on WIHA. I work way to hard for the birds I get to share spots.
This is exactly what I was talking about. It's cooled a bit this year as I think the moderators cracked down a bit but the Ok Bird hunting and TX Bird hunting groups which are dang big do not police it at all.
pheaspluckerjdl
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Lost Transmitter
Have lost a DT Systems Model-300 transmitter in Rush County,WIHA#16(approx. location 100yrds from South boundary on SW SW1/4 SEC17 TOWN.17S Range16W,40acre,WIHA name#16).
Hey sportsmans
ont'know you but it's been a pretty rough year for upland hunters,farmers and residents of the great state of KS.Anyway to the subject,were on our traditional Father/Son 1-30 Hunt,really didn't to expect much success,I'm sure most will agree it's not about the number of kills its mostly about father/ son god given opportunity.Sorry for the sermon but felt it needed to be said.Anyway don't expect to to recover the transmitter,who knows I might find it next season because I will be back God willing.Will pay reward & great oppression
It's not about the hunt but the thrill of the chase:
Have lost a DT Systems Model-300 transmitter in Rush County,WIHA#16(approx. location 100yrds from South boundary on SW SW1/4 SEC17 TOWN.17S Range16W,40acre,WIHA name#16).
Hey sportsmans
ont'know you but it's been a pretty rough year for upland hunters,farmers and residents of the great state of KS.Anyway to the subject,were on our traditional Father/Son 1-30 Hunt,really didn't to expect much success,I'm sure most will agree it's not about the number of kills its mostly about father/ son god given opportunity.Sorry for the sermon but felt it needed to be said.Anyway don't expect to to recover the transmitter,who knows I might find it next season because I will be back God willing.Will pay reward & great oppressionIt's not about the hunt but the thrill of the chase:
Agree with this and with Mark.
I post pictures of my dogs pointing on my personal FB page and I'll have people ask my publicly where I was hunting. My response is simply "outside". I'll never ever ever post where I'm hunting publicly unless I'm hunting out of state, and then maybe I'd give the state. That's it. I don't know why people would post anything more specific then that. It blows my mind.
I really don't think it matters much. After Tuesdays snow I saw at least 20 outfits from Oklahoma, Colorado and Texas in SW 620. I'm glad to see Bird hunters hitting Kansas like they use to. As a kid I worked at grocery store. The only day that bigger sales than the Wednesday before Thanksgiving was the Friday before opening season. Nobody cared about deer back then. It was Pheasant hunting and killing coyotes and we killed a ton of both. With the snow the tracks don't lie. I hit some prime fields with hundreds and hundreds of tracks yet me and ole Rooster didn't get a chance to meet. They are here but with such vast tracts of Crp compared to the 80s and 90s they are spread out more. Most old timers forget they hunted wind rows, weed choked fence lines, corners and tail water pits. Those were the only areas with cover and this concentrated the birds. They are there go hunt and have fun.
s.davis
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There are certainly not birds in comparable numbers to Kansas’ peak, or even good years. I suspect that another cause for consternation is that birds get pressured off of public land onto private land, and that the amount of hunting on private land is a fraction of what it used to be, so as long as there is food and shelter, pheasants are never dispersed back onto public land from private ground.
Well we finished the last 3 days and saw lots of birds both pheasants and quail. Some coveys were still big while others only about 10 birds. We both averaged 1 pheasant and 2 quail a day, we pretty much left the quail alone and could have easily limited out all 3 days. We each missed 2 easy shots on pheasants and we had 2 birds we could not find. All on private ground. After the snow melted it was really muddy and we could get to a few spots I was saving till the end of the year.
Gary
Gary
pheaspluckerjdl
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It's public hunting land for the public,that quarter section I have hunted for the last 15 yrs,thought someone if they could even get there might come across it.If a fellow sportsman asks me if I'm having any success I tell them the truth,I'm not the the type of person that thinks that you can take it with you when you go I've got news for you ,you cant(get the drift?).Have hunted passionately for 50 years and 100% for the SPORT.Just an ol'school looking for a transmitter that have owned for 40yrs.