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This thread reminds me of an old saying: "Anybody can get laid in a whore house." You just have to pay for the experience

Most of the kids shooting a 20 gauge on a HS Clay Target Team trap field are beginners. I would estimate that are engaging their targets at 37 yards or more.

Was that gun in 20 gauge? In several years of coaching high school clay target teams, I have noticed inconsistent target breaks with 20 gauge guns and improved cylinder chokes. Modified chokes in the same guns result on more consistent breaks.

Camping right now on the Fort Pierre National Grasslands.

What would that accomplish other than completely removing the choked portion of the barrel and changing the balance of the gun? I suspect that the choked portions of the guns in the OP are very short.

I wonder if the donut pattern with cylinder chokes was a thing back when shotshells were loaded with fiber wads. I have two guns with cylinders barrels that I use for skeet with both lead and steel shot and for doves and ruffed grouse. I have done some patterning with both guns. All...

Why does a tube labeled "cyl" have any constriction?

Only one time in my life have I used a full choke for upland bird hunting. The first pheasant that I shot was turned into a pink mist. There was nothing there to pick up. Opening the chokes guns made them much more useful and valuable to me and their owners.

Are you sure that the cylinder has choke? Is it tapered or straight? American standard bore diameter is 0.729" for 12 gauge. Italian guns are usually 0.005" smaller or 0.724". Dickinson shotguns are made by Huglu in Turkey. Many Turkish shotguns are modeled after Italian designs.

If you were nearby, I would invite you over and teach you how to do to do it for the cost of a beer.

If you are handy, it is not a difficult job to do yourself. I have opened the chokes on about 4 barrels. I have worked from the muzzle and never seen it change the point of impact of the gun. The first I did several years ago was a 12 gauge Model 12 that I inherited from my grandfather. The...

Congratulations on an outstanding hunt. The Minnesota prairie chicken hunt is truly a quality, enjoyable experience. I hope it remains so for a long time. I should be able to draw a permit next fall.

$500 sounds like a lot of money for a used gun with an ill fitted stock. I think you did the right thing.

I hope the nearby flush of a pheasant, whether hen or rooster, never grows old. Enjoy the season.

Lead fragments too. https://phys.org/news/2022-08-pheasant-meat-sold-food-tiny.html

I do not know how great a shot you are, but I can tell you this, I hunted both upland and waterfowl for many years with lead. I have seen birds bagged and birds crippled and lost with both. Lead shot is not some sort of magic death ray. Last fall, in Iowa, during the first three days of the...

Thank you. I appreciate your candor. I have no doubt that copper plated #5 lead shot is a very effective pheasant load. I have used such for many years. I choose not to use lead shot for game for a number of reasons. I do not expect that ingestion of lead will kill me. However, I doubt it...

Since you may not be able to scout, you can go to the Minnesota Recreation Compass and look up the public lands in your selected zone. Often there is a phone number available for the local wildlife manager. Call that number and ask for some tips where the birds can be found. I found that very...

I kind of sensed that from your previous post. Can you persuade me that I am wrong about using nontoxic shot? What are the advantages of lead shot?

Lead residue in the pheasants that I shoot is something that I never worry about. I have completely removed it from my list of life/health threats.