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For those that must or want to shoot steel loads, here are a few of my pattern with the same gun and chokes as above for your review. Pattern results from a 20-gauge Browning Citori with 28" Invector-plus barrels using Briley flush chokes (patterns average of five, 30" post-shot inscribed...

Here are the true constrictions of the chokes I used. 20-gauge Browning Citori w/28" barrels (bore .629") Briley flush Invector-plus chokes Choke constrictions per bore gauge CYL / -.001” SK / .005” IC / .008” M / .014” IM / .017” LF / .020” F / .023” XF / .026” And yes, the only way to...

Here are a few of my 20ga pattern numbers for your consideration to choke performance. Pattern results from a 20-gauge Browning Citori with 28" Invector-plus barrels using Briley flush chokes (patterns average of five, 30" post-shot scribed circle, yardage taped muzzle to target, and in-shell...

https://forum.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/threads/boss-vs-kent-vs-hevi-bismuth-loads.26043/

No, I haven't and I'm not familiar with them. Is it a duplex load with steel and Bismuth?

I don't think it performed any "better" than the Boss Unmuzzled or the Kent load for that matter. Yes, the Warchief load did shoot higher pattern percentages but since it had fewer pellets in the load to start with the higher percentage didn't put any more pellets in the pattern. See the...

12 GA 2 3/4" Boss Warchief No. 4 Bismuth buffered load I recently purchased a box (20 rounds/box @ $43/box + $10 shipping and $4.86 tax = $57.86) of Boss Warchief 12-gauge 2 ¾-inch 1 ¼-ounces No. 4 Bismuth buffered load online from Boss. I cut open five shells, from the same box as the shells...

I have and here are the photos so all can see what these three competitors bismuth pellets look like.

https://forum.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/threads/boss-vs-kent-vs-hevi-bismuth-loads.26043/

Suggestions: 1) do not have Pip around while TRAINING your dog! They can romp and play at other times. 2) teaching/learning sit, stay, and come are necessary for all additional training. 3) short training sessions once or twice a day. Simple stuff and slowly build as he learns. 4) don't keep...

Kualabob -- I wrote a follow up post on the "replacement" shells that you may not have seen. And I have not heard anything from Hevi. https://forum.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/threads/hevi-bismuth-no-5-load-update.26103/

https://forum.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/threads/hevi-bismuth-no-5-load-update.26103/

https://forum.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/threads/boss-bismuth-loads.26044/

https://forum.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/threads/kent-bismuth-loads.26045/

https://forum.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/threads/hevi-bismuth-loads.26046/

https://forum.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/threads/boss-vs-kent-vs-hevi-bismuth-loads.26043/

Thanks for your reply and info. I'm sure they will be adequate out to 40 yards with a Mod. choke and looking forward to your patterning findings. Hoping everything goes well with your wife's recovery!

Ok, Rio 12ga 3" #5 lead shot... What is the payload and listed velocity? I'm sure they will be adequate for pheasants within range but was wondering about the specifics of the load. I'll be looking forward to your patterning info. Hoping you'll do that at a measured (muzzle to pattern sheet)...

Black lab. She is mostly a duck dog but I hunter her on dove, rail, prairie grouse, pheasant, ducks and geese. She gets to waterfowl hunt about ~30 days a year and we try to hunt pheasant 10-12 days a year. We also hunt dove, rail, and grouse when we have a place with birds. I'll admit that...

After several comments that bismuth needs to be shot in tighter chokes, I've gone back and done some more patterning with the same replacement shells that Hevi sent me. The IC patterning was just for the heck of it and the Full choke patterning is for those that commented that you need tight...