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Well, grab a gun and sportsman's guide. But, bad news. Both places went up 3 bucks a box right after I bought them... So not a great deal anymore. We needed them for our field trials, and I will be shooting on a national am cocker team this fall. So they will get used up. I have shot several...

You had my interest until I saw the price LOL. Uffdah

They are OK. They are federals. The normal heavy game load. Just boxed for runnings. We went through 30 or so cases this past year for trials, training etc. The price is ok. The same feds were always about 8 bucks a box, now15-16 at fleet farm. So 12.99 is a tad cheaper. The shot is pretty rough...

You will like the super sports better. 1,300 fps 7.5 shot win's. I use them training all the time. They kill far better then these super pigeons. And Fiocchi HV6 or HV7.5's 1,330 fps you would love as well.

I had a small victory the other day myself. :)(y)

That is a bummer. Just because he has stuff.

Walmart and Fleet Farm had some loads today. 👍

Could be. I just never thought those were 1 1/4 oz. Hard to say. Less charge possibly. Or even a different powder maybe.

I dont believe it makes a hill of beans difference. I shoot a 30" gun. I have a SBE with 28, had a 26 in the past. All shot just fine. I dont see any dif at all in the swing from length. But thats me. I think you will like either.

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I have tried the 5's HB, not the 6's. I was not too impressed, but we take what we can get right now LOL. I saw them same 100 packs yesterday in 8 shot. I passed them bye. 7.5 I may have grabbed. Everything seems a few bucks a box higher then normal. It will end when folks quit paying the...

I wonder why they are 1220 FPS ?????? Odd. I bought several flats lately and they are 1330's. Same desript.

Bummer Zeb. Good luck, that sleeve looks like a good choice. I have only found time off to really work. Thats why I have lots of dogs LOL. Hope you get to get back out with her.

I shoot field trials, and train every week 2 to 3 times a week on live birds. If we shot birds shorter than 40 yards in a field trial, we would be kicked off the gun team. I shoot the same way when we go hunting. If your crippling birds at 40, you simply have to change your style, loads, chokes...

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Pluss for dogs with long hair get a Andis super 2 speed with a T-84 blade. Give em a trim a week or so before hunting season. End of most of your problem. I dont have much issue. Mine are the short straight haired ones for the most part. The ones I trim it does the trick. I like to leave the...

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I did. For the year. And the funny thing is he does not belong to me LOL. It was a new guy. A pup I picked out for him. After this he disappeared never to call or return training. Reasons unknown. It was very odd to say the least. And has done nothing since. Sad part of the story. But life goes...

Had a good 2019 year with one of the pups. Then the covid year hit. So guess I will share some now LOL. Blue River Bocephus. National high point pup, weighted national high point pup, and Midwest high point pup. 65 points, which is more pup points then any dog in the history of AKC field...