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    20 ga Feather lightning

    I don't know about the 20ga Heavy Hammer load but here's some of my data on the 12ga version! 12 GA 3” HEVI-Hammer Upland No. 3 Bismuth/Steel duplex load I acquired some HEVI-Hammer Upland 12-gauge 1 3/8-ounce No. 3 Bismuth/Steel duplex loads from a hunter. I then cut open five shells from the...
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    1330 fps

    Here's some patterning I did on lead pheasant loads that may shed some light on this topic. Are you really getting any benefits from the more expensive “Premium” or “Super” pheasant loads on the market? Well, let’s see what the pattern board can tell us about some of these loads and how they...
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    Might be a bismuth shortage.

    Thanks for the kind words! I was just poking at you :ROFLMAO:
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    Might be a bismuth shortage.

    "The average pellet diameters were determined from measuring 25 random pellets (five from each shell dissected) with a micrometer." When I count pellets, I separate them into groups, so I make an accurate count and then just randomly pick a pellet from each 20 or so. I'm not looking to find...
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    Might be a bismuth shortage.

    12 GA 3" Boss Unmuzzled Bismuth No. 5 load I acquired some Boss 12-gauge 3-inch 1 3/8-ounce No. 5 bismuth loads from a hunter. I then cut open five shells, from the same box as the shells to be patterned, and the components (powder and shot) were weighed, counted, and measured for consistency...
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    Might be a bismuth shortage.

    https://forum.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/threads/boss-vs-kent-vs-hevi-bismuth-loads.26043/
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    Might be a bismuth shortage.

    12 GA 2 3/4” Kent Upland Bismuth No. 5 load I purchased a box of the Kent Bismuth Upland 12-gauge 2 ¾-inch 1 ¼-ounces No. 5 bismuth load (25 round/box @ $50.99/box + $4.23 tax = $55.22) at a local sporting goods store. I then cut open five shells, from the same box as the shells to be patterned...
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    20 gauge ammo for quail

    For quail hunters that need or want to shoot steel loads, here are a few of my 20-gauge steel load pattern numbers to give you an idea of the kind of performance you might get from some commonly used choke constrictions. Pattern results from a 20-gauge Browning Citori with 28" Invector-plus...
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    20ga or 12ga for upland birds

    Here are a few of my 20- and 12-gauge pattern numbers to give you an idea of how #3 and #2 steel pheasant loads perform, in my gun/chokes! I've only listed the chokes that could maintain a minimum of ~100 pellets in the 30" pattern at the distance tested. Patterning results from a 20-gauge...
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    20ga or 12ga for upland birds

    Here are a few of my pattern numbers from 20- and 12-gauge lead loads, that I’ve shot pheasants with, to give you an idea of the kind of performance you might get from similar loads and chokes. Patterns from 20- and 12-gauge Browning Citoris with 28" Invector-plus barrels and Briley flush...
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    20 gauge ammo for quail

    Here are a few of my 20-gauge pattern numbers from lead dove/quail loads to give you an idea of the kind of performance you might get from some commonly used choke constrictions. Pattern results from a 20-gauge Browning Citori with 28" Invector-plus barrels using Briley flush chokes (patterns...
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    What produces recoil? Velocity or payload?

    Sporting Arms and Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI) has voluntary industry standards published in the American National Standards which include: 1) Pellet size variations allow for +/- one pellet size (+/- .010" dia.) of variation in “game” loads and +/- ½ pellet size (+/- .005" dia.) of...
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    What produces recoil? Velocity or payload?

    Here are a few of my payload weights from factory shells. Average pellet counts and payload weights from 5 shells 12 GA 2 ¾" FEDERAL FIELD & TARGET LOAD 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (486 pellets) @ 1200 fps PELLETS/SHELL (1 1/8 ounce = 492.2 gr) In-shell pellet count / weight (grains) Aver. 486.4 /...
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    What’s everyone using for non toxic shell’s? For pheasants

    Here are a few of my pattern numbers to give you an idea of the kind of performance you might get from these loads. Now you can be the judge! Patterning results from a 12-gauge 3-inch Remington 870 Special Purpose with a 28" barrel and factory flush Rem-chokes (pattern average of five, 30"...
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