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    Which Barrel First For Over/Under

    Yes, tradition is with the bottom barrel first since the bottom barrel was usually choked more open in fixed choked barrels and since it is supposedly less muzzle jump so faster recovery for the second shot. I learned on fixed choke O/U so I continue to shoot the lower open choke first (even in...
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    Favorite steel

    12ga 3” #5 Winchester Long Beard vs Supreme vs Super-X load Pattering results are from a 12-gauge 3-inch Remington 870 Special Purpose with a 26-inch barrel and a Remington Turkey Super Full Extended Choke (.063” constriction from bore gauge). Pattern testing was done on 48-inch x 48-inch...
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    Favorite steel

    12 GA 2 3/4” Kent Waterfowl Bismuth No. 4 load I purchased a box of the Kent Bismuth Waterfowl 12-gauge 2 ¾-inch 1 ¼-ounce No. 4 bismuth load (25 round/box @ $50.99/box + $4.23 tax = $55.22) at a local sporting goods store. I then cut open five shells, from the same box as the shells to be...
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    Favorite steel

    https://forum.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/threads/hevi-bismuth-no-5-load-update.26103/ https://forum.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/threads/boss-vs-kent-vs-hevi-bismuth-loads.26043/
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    Preferred 20 Gauge Shell

    https://forum.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/threads/hevi-hammer-upland-load.25901/
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    Preferred 20 Gauge Shell

    Munster -- Here's some info on your topic that may be of interest. 20ga lead and steel pheasant loads If you are shooting pheasants with a 20-gauge, go with 2 ¾-inch 1-ounce or 3-inch 1 1/4-ounce loads with lead #6s or #5s. Choked appropriately, those loads should take care of any pheasant...
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    Favorite steel

    Yes, it is just a steel load and nothing special about it. 40 YARDS – MOD REM-CHOKE (.018" const.) Federal Speed-Shok 3" 1 1/4 oz #2 steel (154 pellets) pattern 115 (75%) Hevi-Steel 3" 1 1/4 oz #2 steel (148 pellets) pattern 100 (68%) Kent Fasteel 3" 1 1/4 oz #2 steel (155 pellets) pattern 103...
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    Favorite steel

    12 GA 3” HEVI-Hammer Upland No. 3 Bismuth/Steel duplex load I acquired some HEVI-Hammer Upland 12-gauge 1 3/8-ounce No. 3 Bismuth/Steel duplex loads from a hunter. I then cut open five shells, from the same box as the shells to be patterned, and the components (powder and shot) were weighed...
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    Favorite steel

    If you want to see a comparison of various 12ga #3 and #2 steel loads, here are a few of my pattern numbers for your consideration. Patterning results from a 12-gauge 3-inch Remington 870 Special Purpose with a 28-inch barrel and factory flush Rem-chokes (pattern average of five, 30-inch...
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    Favorite steel

    When using steel on pheasants, it is best to go with loads that contain #2 or #3 steel pellets. Steel shot lethality research conducted on pheasants by Tom Roster showed #2 steel to be more effective (at all ranges) than either #6 or #4 steel. Yes, #4 or #6 steel loads will kill'em too, but a...
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    Boss shotgun ammunition

    I acquired some Boss 12-gauge loads and cut open and dissected five shells from each load. Here are my findings from those dissections. 12 GA 2 3/4" Boss Unmuzzled Bismuth load 1 1/4 oz #4 Bi (192 pellets) @ 1350 fps PELLET COUNT / WEIGHT (grains) (1 ¼ ounce = 546.9 gr) 195 / 552.9 gr 194 /...
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    Does shot string matter?

    No, it is insignificant since the shot swarm is many times faster than the bird. There has been much written about it over the years from many more knowledgeable in ballistics than I. I believe Ed Lowery from Winchester did a good amount of work on this question and wrote a paper or article on...
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    What choke is in your gun?

    At the 20-30 yard shots we are talking about, the 1 1/8-ounce #6 lead load would be a good choice. Reload (STS, Green Dot) 2 ¾” 1 1/8 oz #6 lead (267 pellets) / pattern 147 (55%)
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    What choke is in your gun?

    A 12-gauge cylinder bore barrel or choke tube should have an effective distance out to about 25-30 yards, depending on the shot shell payload, pellet size, and target size. Here are a few of my 12-gauge cylinder choke pattern numbers at 30 yards to give you an idea of the kind of performance you...
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    What choke is in your gun?

    It really depends on the distance of your shots and how you hunt, the cover you hunt, the dogs you hunt with, the weather, etc. Here are a few of my pattern numbers to give you an idea of the kind of performance you might get from different choke constrictions to help with your choke selection...
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    Chokes matter?

    Here are a few more of my pattern numbers and a writeup I did on the results that touch on your comment. 12ga 2 ¾” Game-Shok vs Premium Upland High-Velocity vs Super Pheasant Loads Are you really getting any benefits from the more expensive “Premium” or “Super” pheasant loads on the market...
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    Chokes matter?

    Pretty hard to beat a SK (~.005") / LM (~.015") choke combo in an O/U or SxS for general hunting in good cover and with good dogs. If the wind gets up big like it does sometimes in SD and the birds are flushing wild and going with the wind, an IC (~.010") / IM (~.025") choke combo may work out...
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    Chokes matter?

    For those that must or want to shoot steel loads, here are a few of my pattern with the same gun and chokes as above for your review. Pattern results from a 20-gauge Browning Citori with 28" Invector-plus barrels using Briley flush chokes (patterns average of five, 30" post-shot inscribed...
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    Chokes matter?

    Here are the true constrictions of the chokes I used. 20-gauge Browning Citori w/28" barrels (bore .629") Briley flush Invector-plus chokes Choke constrictions per bore gauge CYL / -.001” SK / .005” IC / .008” M / .014” IM / .017” LF / .020” F / .023” XF / .026” And yes, the only way to...
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    Chokes matter?

    Here are a few of my 20ga pattern numbers for your consideration to choke performance. Pattern results from a 20-gauge Browning Citori with 28" Invector-plus barrels using Briley flush chokes (patterns average of five, 30" post-shot scribed circle, yardage taped muzzle to target, and in-shell...
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