Point 4 Performance Labs
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I recently bred my female to a stud dog named Scooter that Martin bred one of his females to a couple years ago (Unfortunately, my breeding did not take). Anyway, as part of the process of investigating Scooter, I spoke/e-mailed with a couple people who bought pointing labs from Martin from his Scooter breeding. All were very impressed with their pups, to say the least, and highly recommended Martin's breeding program. I also spoke with Martin on the phone for about an hour, primarily about Scooter, but also about his breeding program and his involvement in the APLA. He was a super nice guy to talk so long with a complete stranger who wasn't looking to buy a pup. He seemed like a straight shooter who knew what he was doing. I recommend Martin if you're looking at pointing labs.
I actually have a dog out of Quinn and Scooter's first breeding, Remi, is his name. He just turned 2yrs old on May 27th this year and I couldn't be more happy with him. Martin is an awesome guy, from what I know of him and have seen, he is a man of his word.
Remi has some of the looks of Scooter. He isn't as dark. Martin kept a brother to Remi, Squatch, who is actually darker like their dad. Remi has one Junior pass, he has his CPR and because of my own lack of training with him he should have his APR at least by now.
My goal is to have his MPR and hopefully GMPR next year. I plan on trying to campaign him next year in AKC Master. All Remi wants to do is work, retrieve, hunt, etc...however he comes in the house and hangs out with the family and my son sleeps with him at night sometimes.
Remi's temperment is not aggressive, so he isn't really an Alpha type male, however he doesn't back down. He isn't soft or stubborn...he catches on quick. He did well during FF, the CC piece I am still finishing. He isn't very vocal.
In my opinion (I have owned, trained, bred, raised, hunted) labs since I got my first yellow while stationed up at Elmendorf AFB in Anchorage, AK, so more than 20years. Remi is the most talented lab I have ever owned.
Let me know if you have any other questions. I also heard that Scooter got his FTCH (meaning he is a Canadien field champion)....
Greg
Remi has some of the looks of Scooter. He isn't as dark. Martin kept a brother to Remi, Squatch, who is actually darker like their dad. Remi has one Junior pass, he has his CPR and because of my own lack of training with him he should have his APR at least by now.
My goal is to have his MPR and hopefully GMPR next year. I plan on trying to campaign him next year in AKC Master. All Remi wants to do is work, retrieve, hunt, etc...however he comes in the house and hangs out with the family and my son sleeps with him at night sometimes.
Remi's temperment is not aggressive, so he isn't really an Alpha type male, however he doesn't back down. He isn't soft or stubborn...he catches on quick. He did well during FF, the CC piece I am still finishing. He isn't very vocal.
In my opinion (I have owned, trained, bred, raised, hunted) labs since I got my first yellow while stationed up at Elmendorf AFB in Anchorage, AK, so more than 20years. Remi is the most talented lab I have ever owned.
Let me know if you have any other questions. I also heard that Scooter got his FTCH (meaning he is a Canadien field champion)....
Greg
mustistuff
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Unless you have the ones that are better than Brittanys
but now you guy's have listed two problems, the lab and the britt, get it done get a gsp and be on your way
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mustistuff
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Hunting with a GSP is great it just being around them for the other 320 days that's the trick :laugh:
I have far less trouble being around them those 320 days than I do my queen, they are a piece of cake. actually I have never had a hyper dog, I think some of that is man made
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I would agree. A bored dog is an unhappy dog. :thumbsup:
I have never owned a GSP, I have hunted with several though. Some where hyper and some where when the hunt was over and back in the motel room they were as calm as a golden retriever (now the golden guys will blast me
Anyhow, what I like is the fact that I have and still do some waterfowl and labs are a little bit better suited for it than GSP's just as GSP's are more better suited to do upland all day more than a lab is.....
Either way, it is the fact that we are all preserving game through the use of a trained hunting dog....
Greg
(now the golden guys will blast meAnyhow, what I like is the fact that I have and still do some waterfowl and labs are a little bit better suited for it than GSP's just as GSP's are more better suited to do upland all day more than a lab is.....
Either way, it is the fact that we are all preserving game through the use of a trained hunting dog....
Greg
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i have had 4 gsp's in my life and loved everyone of them and will probably never have anything else (although i am thinking of a wirehair). Where as my cousin is on his third yellow lab, two of which are pointing labs and he feels the same way about them as i do about my GSP, when the two breeds are in the field they work very well with each other. My point is that it doesn't matter what kind you have as long as your happy with it and the breed fits into your type of hunting and life.
As all of you probably have found out your chances of finding birds are better with a dog then by yourself.
As all of you probably have found out your chances of finding birds are better with a dog then by yourself.
mustistuff
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where we going
didn't think this post started out trying to be sensible. my shorthairs cold water retrieve but I have had a number of them that wouldn't. don't know why. for the most of us a good dog is one you enjoy and with some luck it will find a bird either dead or alive, after all, if we all had gsp there wouldn't be enough of them to go around and the price would go up. one real plus with the gsp is that the show people haven't taken a very big liking to them so they still have some hunting ability left in them.
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didn't think this post started out trying to be sensible. my shorthairs cold water retrieve but I have had a number of them that wouldn't. don't know why. for the most of us a good dog is one you enjoy and with some luck it will find a bird either dead or alive, after all, if we all had gsp there wouldn't be enough of them to go around and the price would go up. one real plus with the gsp is that the show people haven't taken a very big liking to them so they still have some hunting ability left in them.
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Funny, the post started out asking about how dogs from Martin Baca's P4P labs are and somehow got taken over by a bunch of GSP guys
Anyhow....just FYI, the show people have not and will not ever take over the Labrador retriever.....so there is plenty of hunting left in those yella, black or choco labs out there....some just more than others...
Meanwhile back at the ranch,
Greg
Anyhow....just FYI, the show people have not and will not ever take over the Labrador retriever.....so there is plenty of hunting left in those yella, black or choco labs out there....some just more than others...
Meanwhile back at the ranch,
Greg
mustistuff
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Funny, the post started out asking about how dogs from Martin Baca's P4P labs are and somehow got taken over by a bunch of GSP guys
Anyhow....just FYI, the show people have not and will not ever take over the Labrador retriever.....so there is plenty of hunting left in those yella, black or choco labs out there....some just more than others...
Meanwhile back at the ranch,
Greg
what on earth are you talking about, the show people have ruined a very large numbers of labs of all colors. sure there is some really good hunting stock out there but the show people have done their thing
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I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one. And what I am talking about is the fact that I have owned, trained, raised, hunted, and bred labs since 1992. There are several organizations out there (NAHRA, AKC, HRC, APLA) that ensure the hunting stock/lineage is maintained. BTW, there are only three colors recognized by AKC, yellow, black and chocolate.
Don't know how this post got hijacked....anyhow,
Greg
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Well, I've been on this forum long enough to know when a thread has the potential to morph, and every time there are lab threads, they seem to bloom....or is that boom!
My Girls
will those mutts jump out of the boat to retrieve your fish or are they just along for the ride. if we really cared where the thread went we could find something useful to do with out time beside be on here.
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