Drainage/sewage for kennel?

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duckn66

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I'm thinking of revamping my kennel situation. I have 2 dogs in it right now and am going to expand it by maybe 2 more. Pouring more concrete etc etc.

Right now the pens are located on the east side of my shop underneath a 10' overhang which provides them with shade and a nice south breeze in the summer and decent protection from the NW winds of winter. Right now I just rinse the pens out and it drains onto the rock around the kennels which I do not like at all.

I wanting to put in a trough around the two sides of concrete and have it drain into some sort of septic. I've heard 55 gallon plastic barrels with holes in them filled partly with gravel will work.

Any ideas or thoughts on what to do would be greatly appreciated.
 
I kennel two Golden's in Mn. They seem to hold their void until I release them from the pen - hence no issues with waste. The kennel is next to a wooded area - I just shovel any feces over the fence into the woods.

Messy feces is a problem. Your idea of a collection barrel sounds like it would solve your problem. You might want to go online and investigate other systems, especially those of large breeders or training establishments, that house several dogs.

Hog pens have a grate arrangement that allows the feces to drop below and gets collected and sent to those large metal structures that have a very gross odor.

Good luck!
 
I've seen a few plans online.

I guess I am lucky in that my dogs only urinate in their pens. I let them out to run twice a day and they do their other "business" while running. Mainly looking for a place for the urine to run into when they go and also when I rinse the pens out.
 
If it's only urine, you could buy a cheap tank sprayer and spray bath area with a odor killing solution and hose the surface. Assume you have tried this and are looking for other methods...
 
No I haven't tried any type of odor killing solution. I usually pinesol out the kennels but I can't do it everyday. I just thought maybe some sort of sewage system would be nice to have.
 
If you put in a trough make sure you
1) make it at least 3-4 in" deep
2) make it 1-2" wider than the shovel you plan on using ( I use a short
handled flat cement type shovel)
3) run at least 2-20' drain lines from 2- 55 gal barrels installed just like you
described
4) Have access hole cap for cleaning
 
I use bleach and water mixed 50/50 in sprinkler can. Hose out kennel, apply liberally with bleach/water mix, work into concret with stiff shop broom, allow to set for 10-15 min. hose clean. This kills all odors and disinfects better than anything else I have tried. Concrete will dry to almost new condition in couple of hours. I put my dogs on stakeouts while cleaning kennel. Do this every 2-4 weeks depending on what works best for you.
 
maximus1 said:
If you put in a trough make sure you
1) make it at least 3-4 in" deep
2) make it 1-2" wider than the shovel you plan on using ( I use a short
handled flat cement type shovel)
3) run at least 2-20' drain lines from 2- 55 gal barrels installed just like you
described
4) Have access hole cap for cleaning
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Dumb question but how deep to the barrels need to be and how big of access cap on the tops of the barrels would I need?
 
Wow! Two 55 gal drums in the ground. Sounds like a septic system for a cabin! Would think you could get along with something much smaller...less digging.

If you plan to have it gravity drain into the drums, the drums would probably need to be just below ground level. Assume you could use a 5-8 gal container sold at the home stores.
 
I would think that a smaller container would be sufficient as well. I have a 35 gallon barrel that I may use.
 
You'll still have a problem in the winter, with urine freezing in the snow et al! This makes for a wonderful mess in the spring...talk about odor!

I would be careful with a bleach solution in the winter. If that stuff gets on their paws it can be toxic.

Good Luck
 
I don't use it in the winter just for that reason. Yes, yellow snow is horrible! LOL. Don't eat the yellow snow!
 
I don't have to worry much about freezing in Oklahoma. We have plenty of days above freezing to give the kennel a good cleaning. I never bleach kennels unless I have a good drying day.

The reason I suggest 2 barrels is because he was adding 2 more kennel runs (bringing total to 4). When you have heavy rain or several days of rain, the ground dosen't absorb the runnoff as quickly. Also your gravity drain into the barrels is carrying all the rain from your kennels and filling the barrels. Daily kennel cleaning uses alot of water and it all goes into the barrels. Using 1 small barrel works for awhile but not very long. It really sucks to have a system backed up and flooding the area around your kennel because you have all the water running towards 1 area and it's to wet to get a pump truck in your yard to pump it out.

The reason I know this is 20 plus years ago I did 1 55 gal barrell for 4 kennels. It is alot of digging but it sure sucks more to dig it up a second time and do it right. I should have listened to knowlegeable people the firs time. I paid a guy to come over with a backhoe and had him dig 2 ' deeper, I put 2' of septic rock down, than 2- 55 gal barrels. I drilled holes in the barrels, filled the barrels up 1/3 with septic rock, ran 3 -20 ft lines from barrells and put in 3" clean outs for each barrel. The tops of the barrel were about 16" below ground. This has worked out great for me. I would rather over do it once than ever have to do it twice.

It is well worth it and dosen't cost that much for the back hoe, it took him longer to unload and load it than to dig the hole. I filled it all in by hand and did it all on 1 weekend. Nowadays you can rent one pretty cheap.
 
That makes sense in what you say. Fortunately I have worked for an excavator and can pretty much borrow any piece of equipment I need to do the job with. So, I have the barrels, the track hoe, can do the concrete work myself, so all I would need would be the PVC pipe. Think I will make some plans and try to get it done perhaps in the spring unless we end up having a very mild winter.
 
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