Black Friday Hunt

sooty grouse

sooty grouse

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Me and my cousin and his friend went out hunting on public land on "black friday"...we were hoping no one would be out there, and we were right!! not a soul...all the girly men went shopping with there wives or GF's..LOL

We started out on about 40ac. piece of land, I stayed far left following barbed wire fence, they went to the right. On other side of fence a rooster jumped up, but was in the no shoot zone which was city land, I was on county land, so I watch it fly away, but it landed back in legal shooting side...nice will go back after and see if I can kick em up.

Still walking up fence line another rooster jumped up in the no shoot zone..rats..he flew and landed in no hunt area.

A few doves flying around so I bagged a few. Jackrabbits everywhere, keep darting out of grass...saw 15 or more that day.

Went back to that area I saw that rooster land and kicked em up, my cousin took first shoot missing, I dropped em with one 1 oz. of #5 shot with the 28ga.

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Sooty, you've said that you are hunting on public land and in the past made reference to Lincoln. Most recently you talk about being next to city land and hunting on county land. Although the county owns land around Lincoln such as the old Lincoln missile site and other pieces, none of it is available to the public for hunting. You must have permission from the land owner to hunt even if the land owner is the public. The only public property you don't need permission to hunt on is the navigable waterways of the state and even some of those are restricted. The closest public land available to hunt is 12 miles to the North at Spenceville or 15 miles to the West at the Feather River on Class C state wildlife areas. Because you and any others haven't been cited just means nobody has complained yet.
 
calamari said:
Sooty, you've said that you are hunting on public land and in the past made reference to Lincoln. Most recently you talk about being next to city land and hunting on county land. Although the county owns land around Lincoln such as the old Lincoln missile site and other pieces, none of it is available to the public for hunting. You must have permission from the land owner to hunt even if the land owner is the public. The only public property you don't need permission to hunt on is the navigable waterways of the state and even some of those are restricted. The closest public land available to hunt is 12 miles to the North at Spenceville or 15 miles to the West at the Feather River on Class C state wildlife areas. Because you and any others haven't been cited just means nobody has complained yet.
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Game warden said we are legal to hunt were we do, as long as we dont go over fence on city land....had police come out and said, hope you get some birds and have a good day.....were legal to be there and hunt, till they post no hunt signs........
 
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A game warden and the police came out and said it was OK...? Isn't there supposed to be a rabbi and a talking dog in that story?
Here's the law and it's simple. If you don't own it, you need permission.
Section 2016 of the Fish and Game code
It is unlawful to enter any lands under cultivation or
enclosed by a fence, belonging to, or occupied by, another, or to
enter any uncultivated or unenclosed lands, including lands
temporarily inundated by waters flowing outside the established banks
of a river, stream, slough, or other waterway, where signs
forbidding trespass are displayed at intervals not less than three to
the mile along all exterior boundaries and at all roads and trails
entering such lands, for the purpose of discharging any firearm or
taking or destroying any mammal or bird, including any waterfowl, on
such lands without having first obtained written permission from the
owner of such lands, or his agent, or the person in lawful possession
thereof. Such signs may be of any size and wording, other than the
wording required for signs under Section 2017, which will fairly
advise persons about to enter the land that the use of such land is
so restricted.
 
calamari said:
A game warden and the police came out and said it was OK...? Isn't there supposed to be a rabbi and a talking dog in that story?
Here's the law and it's simple. If you don't own it, you need permission.
Section 2016 of the Fish and Game code
It is unlawful to enter any lands under cultivation or
enclosed by a fence, belonging to, or occupied by, another, or to
enter any uncultivated or unenclosed lands, including lands
temporarily inundated by waters flowing outside the established banks
of a river, stream, slough, or other waterway, where signs
forbidding trespass are displayed at intervals not less than three to
the mile along all exterior boundaries and at all roads and trails
entering such lands, for the purpose of discharging any firearm or
taking or destroying any mammal or bird, including any waterfowl, on
such lands without having first obtained written permission from the
owner of such lands, or his agent, or the person in lawful possession
thereof. Such signs may be of any size and wording, other than the
wording required for signs under Section 2017, which will fairly
advise persons about to enter the land that the use of such land is
so restricted.
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LOL, were......... "LEGAL TO BE THERE"........what dont you understand about that????
 
Remember when you get the citation for the violation of Sec. 2016 of the F&G Code and Placer County Code Section 9.12.020 the judge is going to ask you just one question,"Where is your written permission to hunt on that property?" You will say a game warden came out and said it was OK and a policeman came out and hoped we got something and the judge will say, "What's their names? Are they here today to testify?" And that as they say will be that.

Here's the Placer County Code Section that also states you need written permission. You can't say you didn't know.

9.12.020 Trespassing.
A.1. Every person who remains, or allows his or her personal property to remain on the real property of another after being requested by the owner of such real property to leave or remove such personal property, shall be guilty of a public offense. These provisions shall not be applicable to law enforcement or fire personnel acting within the course and scope of their employment, nor to persons on the real property pursuant to process of law.
2. Such request may be oral or written if made in person and shall be immediately effective.
3. For the removal of personal property, if the owner thereof is not personally present, such request shall be in writing and attached to the personal property to be removed. It shall be effective in seventy-two (72) hours, or when the writing is actually received, whichever comes first.
4. The provisions of this subsection shall be in addition to any other punishments or remedies provided by law.
B. It is unlawful for any person to enter upon unimproved real property belonging to another person unaccompanied by such other person without having in possession written, signed authorization from such other person for such entry. Such written authorization shall be produced upon demand of any peace officer enforcing the provisions of this section. Any charge under this subsection shall be dismissed when the person charged produces in court such written, signed authorization from such other person for such entry. (Prior code § 12.18)
 
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:confused:You must be having an off day, I will give you that.

When a GAME WARDEN came out there to check our tags, he said "your legal to be here"..... have a good hunt......."police" drove by and stopped to just make sure we were legal as well....have a good day, they said.....

um, I think we can hunt there LOL, been doing it for 6yrs, and my friend been hunting there for over 25yrs..:eek:...on public land.

I cant even believe Im having a conversation with you about this...

Your starting to sound like one of those jerks on that CPForum here in CA ...you can give them hard facts, but they think there right...I hope your not though
 
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I posted a reply but it isn't there anymore. Jmac what you missed was me being uncharitable and not thinking that maybe Sooty thought that the only thing you needed to hunt on property owned by the public was a history of doing it. That isn't the case if you look at the code sections I listed.
What was also in the now missing post was that I've lived in Auburn for more that 60 years and worked for Placer County for over 20 years before retiring. I know that there is no county owned land where hunting is allowed. The Board of Supervisors has a Risk Management department that assesses the potential for law suits resulting from county actions. Given the potential for accidents and resulting law suits if hunting was allowed on the public's land, they don't allow hunting. Sooty ignores the two code sections requiring written permission before you can hunt on land you don't own and says that because a warden checked their license and said they were legal hunting there(why did he check them?) and a police officer talked to them and wished them luck(huh?) they were legal. They are not without WRITTEN permission.
If this gets deleted I'd appreciate a reason why.
I've listed the law that governs hunting on land you don't own as an attempt to prevent Sooty from being cited and to inform others.
 
Cal, You have know idea were I hunt, why do you think I was in Lincoln????..that was not in Lincoln, oh, and why do game wardens check to see if we had license ?...because thats there job!!! and to go a bit farther, a game warden told me about that place I hunt at, can you see why Im laughing at you...

Please do me a favor and dont reply to my threads, your not helping me at all....but you think you are, and thats scary..:eek:
 
calamari. Look carefully at the fish and game code. To put it in a nut shell, if the land is not under cultivation, enclosed by a fence or posted, it is perfectly OK to hunt on. So Sooty Grouse is OK to hunt the land he is on by the fish and game code.
Now the for Placer County code. The Placer County code does not apply. California Penal Code Section 602.2 states:
Any ordinance or resolution adopted by a county which
requires written permission to enter vacant or unimproved private
land from either the owner, the owner's agent, or the person in
lawful possession of private land, shall not apply unless the land is
immediately adjacent and contiguous to residential property, or
enclosed by fence, or under cultivation, or posted with signs
forbidding trespass, displayed at intervals of not less than three to
a mile, along all exterior boundaries and at all roads and trails
entering the private land.

So once again as long as Sooty Grouse is not on land under cultivation, enclosed by a fence or posted or on land immediately adjacent and contiguous to residential property he does not need written permission to be there.
 
Huntsprig, I appreciate the effort you've made to provide information about this subject and will look at it in more detail. I will report what I find and if it is as you say I will be willing to say I'm full of it. It will take awhile and I believe will be a long reply but I will reply.
 
Huntsprig said:
calamari. Look carefully at the fish and game code. To put it in a nut shell, if the land is not under cultivation, enclosed by a fence or posted, it is perfectly OK to hunt on. So Sooty Grouse is OK to hunt the land he is on by the fish and game code.
Now the for Placer County code. The Placer County code does not apply. California Penal Code Section 602.2 states:
Any ordinance or resolution adopted by a county which
requires written permission to enter vacant or unimproved private
land from either the owner, the owner's agent, or the person in
lawful possession of private land, shall not apply unless the land is
immediately adjacent and contiguous to residential property, or
enclosed by fence, or under cultivation, or posted with signs
forbidding trespass, displayed at intervals of not less than three to
a mile, along all exterior boundaries and at all roads and trails
entering the private land.

So once again as long as Sooty Grouse is not on land under cultivation, enclosed by a fence or posted or on land immediately adjacent and contiguous to residential property he does not need written permission to be there.
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Yep, thats why I can hunt were I hunt, known this for a long time, thanks for posting it..:thumbsup:
 
Short form reply. Based on Penal Code Sec. 602.20, I and Placer County are both full of it. The Penal Code Sec., as far as I can tell, was apparently enacted in 1986 as a way to limit counties attempt to control OHV use on private property.
 
calamari said:
Short form reply. Based on Penal Code Sec. 602.20, I and Placer County are both full of it. The Penal Code Sec., as far as I can tell, was apparently enacted in 1986 as a way to limit counties attempt to control OHV use on private property.
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calamari, thanks for putting on your man suit and maning up to this....hope all is clear now..:thumbsup:
 
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