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Thanks for the info. I just looked in to perfect start/finish a little,.not sure if I still have a DVD player Lol. I have watched a lot of Standing stone videos on you tube, I have started the hold conditioning with my GSP based on their videos, it went well just starting the force fetch. The...

Does anyone have experience with using the "upland institute " training program? Sounds like a fairly new course by Justin Mcgrail and Ron Boehme from the Hunting Dog Podcast. Wondering if its worth the $450? I have a 1 yr old gsp that is doing real good but will need more training. Also picking...