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Yeah it just depends on the situation. I've let mine go before but I've been burned enough times that I stay close and my dogs have learned 40-60 yards is max range for how I like to hunt. My dogs also are multi species dogs, hunting Ruffed and sharp tailed grouse, woodcock, prairie chickens...

How many did you? Haha you're talking a big game, let's see some pics or videos.

Id really like to know where he (and some others) are getting the sentiment that running pointers is an easy, lazy hunt. Just because we don't have to chase the dog all over the field because a bird can jump at any moment with a flusher? I guess being able to let my dog cover ground is lazy...

That's a cute picture of yourself

Same here. I've been on trips with people where I don't pull the trigger for a day or 2 while others are hammering away. Just the way things work sometimes. As long as it's a fun trip, the dogs have a good time and a couple birds end up in someone's game bag, I'm happy.

A member here has a post about a 16 gauge Citori for sale earlier today

Yeah Im with you on that. I deer hunt about 30 miles due west of Duluth. I see almost as many wolves on my trail cams as I do deer. I at least saw a nice buck last year. Better than some years where I sit for 6 or 7 days and don't even see a tail.

I picked up a Browning Citori 725 Feather in 20 gauge. Id been eyeing adding a Citori to my collection for awhile now and after getting a chance to put my hands on one at Pheasant Fest a few weeks ago, I just had to have it haha Timing and $$ wise I think I did pretty good. Reeds in Walker MN...

Yeah I cleaned it up yesterday and oiled it and greased the hinge pins and what not with some white lithium grease I had. I'll probably pick up something clear for next time. Didn't like all the white haze it left after it dried haha it'd work fine, but I'll get something clear. Just wanted to...

Versatile breeds are breeds that point, retrieve on land and water and for most breeds also blood track. The history of most versatile breeds stems from commoners in Europe that needed a dog that could do everything. Compared to royalty that had one dog for each specific purpose. There's a...

Oh there's plenty of running behind a pointer haha them wild birds don't hold for those gorgeous points like you see in magazines.

This is the first time I think I've ever seen someone claim a versatile dog was too slow haha

Yeah I agree. I've talked with a lot of guys that have versatile dogs at various NAVHDA events and a lot of them used to run labs and they say they'd never go back to a lab after having a versatile breed. Again, not that labs are bad dogs by any stretch, they're just different compared to a...

I agree with you that a lot of it is just luck. That like may depend a bit on each situation, like when I've brought a couple buddies hunting that don't have dogs. A lot of the action is by me with the dog. But doing a big line, drive style hunt, completely luck which way the bird goes or who...

Thanks for the info. And yeah it's smooth, just stiff. Doesn't feel like it's catching on anything, just needs to be broken in I'm sure. I've only opened and closed it a handful of times. I'll shoot it for the first time next weekend so should get a few boxes of shells through it.

Picked up my first O/U last night and in reading through the manual it stated for the oil finished stocks to use Danish oil or Tung oil and not to use any gun oil on the wood. This gun is the first oil finished stock I've ever owned so curious how those of you with oil finished stocks clean up...

Idk what the thought process is for outlawing it. I'm guessing maybe related to helping bird numbers? Take an example that I've had happen often while hunting here in MN. Multiple times that I'm hunting with my dad, I'll end up shooting 3 birds to his 1. Usually because for one it's my dogs...

Was this the article Birdman? https://www.pheasantsforever.org/BlogLanding/Blogs/Pheasants-Forever/What-is-party-hunting-and-where-is-it-legal.aspx

Agreed. Don't get me wrong, labs are fantastic dogs, I've hunted with them and my dad had labs when I grew up, but they don't compare to a versatile dog.

And he tries to tell me no Small Munsterlander can keep up with a lab in the water haha a well trained dog will do just about anything