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I hope we didn't talk you out of it. Don't get me wrong. In my opinion, the setter would be my # 1 pick for best all-around bird dog. It's just that you need to be careful to pick a dog from hunting lines and not field trial lines.

Here's how I read a pedigree. If it has more than one champion in the last three generations, I won't consider it. None is better. To many champions and you'll probably wind up with a dog you can't handle. If you have been presented, you probably know the breeder? Is he a hunter? Ask him about...

ANY CLAY SHOOTING IS BETTER THAN NONE! Personally, I prefer skeet because it gets you to lead and follow through and those are the most important. I also shoot all my shots low gun to help quicken my mount. Sporting clays every weekend for the summer will put you at the top of your game, but...

That's funny. Reasonable barrel length doesn't have a lot to do with it. Some of my best years shooting was with a 1100 special field. 23's if I remember correctly. Some maybe on the trap range but not much in the field.

That's the Kansas DNR bots.:)

Short barrels and straight stock made the balance a little different, but it never bothered me. Mine shot 60/40 which might throw someone off a little if they are used to 50/50. The straight stock hurt my wrist after a couple hundred rounds at the skeet range but that might have just been me.

I had one of those. It was a great gun.

I just returned from spending the last week of season near you. I didn't know until I just looked at your profile. Our usual trip to the south of you was still covered with snow and mud. Although we have some pretty good private land there, we knew we couldn't get to most of it. We were lured to...

Supposedly, the bottom barrel, due to its lower position is supposed to be fired 1st because it doesn't kick as much and has less muzzle jump. I never noticed much difference.

Absolutely. I don't know the injury but if it's an A.C.L. I can relate. I've had both replaced. Do exactly what the doctor tells you to do. You'll be fine.

Although I wear the minimum (hat) when on private ground, when on public, I'll have plenty on. I'm with you.

I've got a couple of those on my watch list on G.B. now. I'm trying to decide whether to by one or have mine with 28'' tubes cut down and chokes installed.

If it's truly brutal outside (like now} I'm not going to need gloves. I'm going to be sitting here Posting some BS.

Preserve birds Ugartechea 20 sxs Imp. Cyl. As I think I've said before. If I lived where I could hunt any time I wanted I might hunt with a sub gauge, probably a 16. But as long as I have to drive 10 hours I'm not screwing around. I'll hunt with my Beretta ultralight full and xtra full.

Don't put it off to long Molli. I used to dream about wild Chuckers. Now I think I waited too long!

Hummmm, Now I'm wondering about you;)

I'm confused. Is Bob Goose, or is Goose Bob, or is Goose and bob both Bob.:unsure:

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Yeah, R&R. You might help it dry and heal with some Epson salts but boots or not I've never been able to hunt a dog with that bad of pad. Ice and or rock will do that pretty quickly. Sometimes it just happens.

I cordially protest. What's next? Can't say Flare Nare? Can't make fun of A5's misses? Maybe I'm next? Censorship is a slippery slope! I'll leave it at that. I'm with Mioforester.