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I've shot the # 5 they work just fine.

You were last seen on The refuge forums' Saturday at 7:30 p.m. So you know about the upgrade. If I can help let me know.

Yes I do. I haven't had any problems logging in. But I also stay logged in. They upgraded their site a couple weeks ago.

Collar clinic might be an option if you think it's batteries. They also have a repair service. https://www.collarclinic.com/category/batteries.html

John Zeman...set a pretty good standard.......WHOOP...

Snipehunter and CJR Outdoors - a couple guys doing the one man/one dog thing on public land. No BS, just hunting. CJR Outdoors --- KLAUS is a DANDY a Pointer that Knows the command HEAL and BACK.

We manage to fool a few the last Saturday of the season. They decoyed like new birds.... Came to die.

I would think, you will have your best selection, early to mid summer. Right now companies like Federal, Winchester and Remington, are cranking out all the target loads that they can. Hevishot doesn't make target loads so I would expect them to have an earlier availability.

I have bought all my steel (usually 1 case a year at Rogers) online and have never had a problem. The last case of lead was purchased from cabelas. In the past the reason I purchased online was because I could find a bargain. Not so much these days..... You have 7 months if you pay a premium get...

I purchased PPP for a long time. My local farm and ranch store is atwoods and availability just went away locally. That was about a year-and-a-half ago. So I switched to vector hi pro haven't had any problems. They eat it well and seem to like it. Several duck hunters on a duck forum changed to...

If my memory is correct you had mentioned in the past that you dislike steel and that it sucks. So I assumed you were wounding (losing) birds because of steel. Good to know you have it figured out, "it's that big automatic 12 gauge". I use a 20 gauge most of the time for upland. Maybe that's why...

If you are shooting the #4's to just use them up. Post # 41 good advice. https://forum.ultimatepheasanthunting.com/threads/one-thing-you-learned.24254/post-261410

Yes sir, especially with (small) steel shot.

To use the full potential effective killing range of your #4 lead and keep your pattern density where it needs to be. I think you will have to shoot modified or improve mod, maybe even full. As mentioned above the pattern board will give you your final answer.

Very true, especially at close range (30 yards or less).

Goose, BrdHntr and I contributed to the derail of this thread. To the original poster, we will private message from here on out. You fellows carry on!