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Good point. I also should have mentioned that even assuming a 30" effective pattern the effect of having the bird move 7.2" while the 72" string is passing through that plane would be entirely dependent upon where the bird was when the first part of the string arrived. If you slightly over-led...

It has only been the shyest of dogs that I needed to let them chase wing-clipped birds on game farms.

Huns are not anywhere near as big as chukar, and I've shot plenty of gambell's with 5's. No straight-aways flew through my IC 1-oz loads.

The string MAY be 12' but most of the pellets are in the first half of it, with only a few straglers in the last 3'. Shoot good, spherical, hard pellets and they are not going to string very much, certainly not enough to worry about. Let's assume your phez at 40 yds crossing at 90 degrees is...

I don't like 6's in pheasants so all I shoot is 5's. I don't run into quail but I do run into hun's, which are the same size. The 5's have always worked fine.

I'm puzzled as to why you think glass bedding wd have prevented the break. I glass-bed every rifle I want to be accurate, but have never bedded a shotgun stock. I have always thot it was a gimmick in shotguns. Don't tell Mike I said that, though. ;)

Joe is right, it is insignificant. Worry about pellet penetration, pattern density and pointing your gun right, things that matter. Call it "the 3 P's." ;)

I used to do the hidden bumper etc. training and don't think it hurts, but now I'd say: NUMBER ONE, get a dog with a very high prey-drive, a very high desire to CATCH every downed bird. Number 2: STAY OUTTA THE FALL AREA and let the dog do its thing. Several times when hunting with others...

Delicious. Just not as good as pheasant.

If it were as easy as buying Cornish game hens at the supermarket none of us would be doing it.

I have been satisfied with AT&T over the years. Generally if there is a tower there, AT&T is on it, or soon will be. There have been many times when I had coverage and people on other carrier did not, even in places like Rapid City. But if I am in some parts of SD I have to drive to the top...

Since 7's or smaller (I assume you used 7-1/2's) are never appropriate for long shots anyway it strikes as especially dumb to shoot a tight choke in your situation. You have a jillion pellets, you may as well use them to fill up a SK pattern.

"It wasn't me!"

That's why I want my dog to go on the shot, if not before. We wing our fair share and they hit the ground running, but they don't put down very many steps before rocket-dog is on them. My son winged this bird as we were walking back to the car two years ago, me lagging behind about 75 yards...

Good point!

That settles it -- everyone should pattern their gun/load and make sure it will work at the maximum distance they will open up at a rooster. If it does not look good on pattern/steel, the options are: Reduce your maximum distance. Shoot 1-1/4 oz of #5's instead of 1 oz. Shoot again! Maybe...

As Brister noted 50 years ago, larger shot patterns tighter.

The old saying applies: tight chokes help a good shooter and hurt one that isn't so good. I like IC/M but for many something like Sk/IC would be much better.

Yeah, that's one reason I like having two barrels, the upper choked Mod. But one can also refrain from taking 40-yard shots if he is choked Cyl or Skeet. Put even a single #5 pellet in the chest and that bird is going down. It may be a challenging retrieve, but nothing for a good dog. Any...

Yeah, it's amazing how many people don't pay attention to the dog even after you tell them to. I have had to tell them, "Say, that dog right beside you? He's on point. I'd get my gun ready if I were you!" :)